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Year old seed issues

Posted on 2/20/24 at 7:05 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 7:05 pm
I for once planted a bunch of stuff early around Jan 10 and really none of it looks good: peppers, tomatoes, mixed lettuce, etc. They were all seeds from last year leftover as the new seeds weren’t available. I knew they wouldn’t be good so I planted at least double the seeds expected a lower percent. I’ve had luck planting seeds leftover from the previous year. Frankly I’m pissed that they would even sell them.


Most didn’t sprout and the ones that did aren’t growing worth a shite under my grow light, this is all at 72* in my upstairs. This can’t be normal? How does one start seeds like beefsteak tomatoes early then?
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39267 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 7:51 pm to
Do you have heat pad?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22508 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:02 pm to
Yeah heat pad and light. But that room stays warm 70+. I was running it in the beginning but felt like I didn’t need it? This is my first time trying to start seeds early. I mean when I say they sucked I planted over 30 tomatoes and got 3 stringy plants, 40 peppers and got 4, probably 40 lettuce and got 7 that look terrible.

ETA: half of them I started at my parents and half I started at mine. My mom bought some new seeds, and no issues at all. It’s all the seeds I bought. They are all dated 2023. Just weird it’s so many varieties. Different brands too
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 8:05 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15493 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:23 pm to
How & where did you store the seeds over the last year? Seeds can be good for many years if stored properly.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58700 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:11 pm to
Next time you want to keep seeds over a year, buy them and keep them in the freezer. They will keep for many years when stored in the freezer.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22508 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:10 am to
I bought these from the hardware store new, planted them a week later or less. Sorry I meant to say that. It’s not like there was just a couple packets leftover, I mean there was a ton of seeds. I knew they were last years because I looked at the dates, but I figured with that many for sale and not like on a sale rack they’d be fine?

I just wasn’t sure if this is normal? The hardware stores didn’t have this years seeds available yet and I wanted to get started.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18744 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I bought these from the hardware store new, planted them a week later or less. Sorry I meant to say that. It’s not like there was just a couple packets leftover, I mean there was a ton of seeds. I knew they were last years because I looked at the dates, but I figured with that many for sale and not like on a sale rack they’d be fine?

I just wasn’t sure if this is normal? The hardware stores didn’t have this years seeds available yet and I wanted to get started.

Those seeds were stored on that rack for a year in their non-airtight packs. I'd say the results are pretty normal for that.

As others have said, properly stored seeds in a freezer will stay viable for years, decades in my case. I was still planting seeds stored from the late 70's right up until about 2016-17 when the freezer failed while I was working out of town for a month in the summer. The rotting foods ruined the seeds of course (when you can smell the rot before you can get the key in the lock to the front door you know everything inside is done for.)
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22508 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Those seeds were stored on that rack for a year in their non-airtight packs. I'd say the results are pretty normal for that.

As others have said, properly stored seeds in a freezer will stay viable for years, decades in my case. I was still planting seeds stored from the late 70's right up until about 2016-17 when the freezer failed while I was working out of town for a month in the summer. The rotting foods ruined the seeds of course (when you can smell the rot before you can get the key in the lock to the front door you know everything inside is done for.)


I believe it, but then why are they still selling them? The seeds are also all coated, so I was hoping that would help them last.

ETA: So the best thing to do to plan for the following year would be to buy seeds towards the end of planting season and freeze them for the next year?
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 2:08 pm
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