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Yard needs desperate help. St Aug is dead... really dead, not dormant.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:43 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:43 am
I'm in DFW area and my backyard basically went to shite last summer with lack of rain and high heat. It was St Aug, but 85% of the lawn is now weeds and dead St Aug. Like really dead.
I don't care if my yard is St Aug as long as there is some sort of grass.
No dogs, no kids.
What can I do that's relatively easy for a middle aged guy to do by himself that doesn't cost $$$.
I don't care if my yard is St Aug as long as there is some sort of grass.
No dogs, no kids.
What can I do that's relatively easy for a middle aged guy to do by himself that doesn't cost $$$.
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:55 am to Greenie10
Dallisgrass
You'll never have to worry about anything again. The only method I've found to get rid of it is my propane blowtorch.
You'll never have to worry about anything again. The only method I've found to get rid of it is my propane blowtorch.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 8:19 am to Greenie10
In DFW it was more than likely take all patch caused by a stressed lawn. In February of 2021 we had 6 inches of snow and temps near zero and 5 days below freezing. Ice storm in February of 2022. Summer of 2022 we went 74 days without rainfall. Summer of 2023 40 days straight above 100. DFW is the northern limit for St Aug to being with. It just couldn't handle the weather and it was susceptible to disease.
That being said you'll have to resod. Bermuda in full sun or Zoysia in shade. If you are in Dallas/Richardson/Garland get your grass from Miller Grass.
That being said you'll have to resod. Bermuda in full sun or Zoysia in shade. If you are in Dallas/Richardson/Garland get your grass from Miller Grass.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:29 am to ronk
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That being said you'll have to resod. Bermuda in full sun or
How is Bermuda with water? Less watering than St Aug? Easier to maintain?
How do I re sod? Roundup everything living in my yard and then throw sod down or am I going to have to dig everything up? I'm in Dallas and have a large lot so not looking forward to this? How much is a pallet of Bermuda btw?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:38 am to Greenie10
If you’re patient you could also seed. Great time of year for that. You’d still have to prep your yard and removed the st Aug but a bag of seed will cost very little vs a truck of sod.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:44 am to Greenie10
When Ronk speaks, you listen. Especially if you’re in the DFW area. He’ll be back shortly to spread his knowledge.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:02 am to Greenie10
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I'm in DFW area and my backyard basically went to shite last summer with lack of rain and high heat. It was St Aug, but 85% of the lawn is now weeds and dead St Aug. Like really dead.
I'm in the same boat here in BTR. My front yard is ok, I think. 99% percent sure the St. Aug in my backyard is completely dead. It's green back there, but it's all weeds. I'm probably going to have to resod at some point this year.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:32 am to Greenie10
Bermuda requires less water than St Aug and is drought tolerant. Bermuda can be as easy or as hard as you want to make it. It really doesn't die so you don't have to do anything to it. That being said neighbors aren't going to stop by and ask what you are doing for your lawn if thats your thing. It does love fert and frequent mowing. That will improve color and density of the lawn.
You can round up and rake off all the dead or you can rent a sod cutter. I haven't bought sod from Miller yet this year but I'd guess that a pallet will be between $260-280. It would cover 550 feet.
You can go the seed route with bermuda but as mentioned it will take prep work or it won't work.
You can round up and rake off all the dead or you can rent a sod cutter. I haven't bought sod from Miller yet this year but I'd guess that a pallet will be between $260-280. It would cover 550 feet.
You can go the seed route with bermuda but as mentioned it will take prep work or it won't work.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:38 am to ronk
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You can round up and rake off all the dead or you can rent a sod cutter. I haven't bought sod from Miller yet this year but I'd guess that a pallet will be between $260-280. It would cover 550 feet.
Think I'll go this route. How long should I wait between round-upping and laying the sod? Is late March early April a good time to do this?
Will a pallet of grass fit in an 1/2 ton truck like a Silverado?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:44 am to Greenie10
2 weeks. Glyphosate binds tightly with the soil and doesn't have any residual effects.
I normally haul sod in an f350 but I did use my personal truck once and it's a Tundra.
I normally haul sod in an f350 but I did use my personal truck once and it's a Tundra.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:54 am to ronk
here's what a $200 sack of seed, fertilizer, and some elbow grease will get ya in a year, fwiw.....
stripes at the bottom are from the vaunted scotts spreader design problem.
stripes at the bottom are from the vaunted scotts spreader design problem.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:26 pm to poochie
Looks great, but to lay down seed, I really have to clear the yard to bare dirt, don't i?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:44 pm to Greenie10
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but to lay down seed, I really have to clear the yard to bare dirt, don't i?
surface prep is about the same and it's going to be the most arduous part.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:02 pm to Greenie10
I am kind of unconventional, when it comes to lawns. I’ll bet you have got a fair amount of sprigs and roots left of the st aug. I would simply keep the weeds mowed short (once or twice a week) and I’ll bet you end up with fair coverage if you keep it watered.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:08 pm to Spankum
Take all patch is gonna be a bitch in dfw this year. Any St Aug that might think about living will be dead in a month.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:17 pm to ronk
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Take all patch is gonna be a bitch in dfw this year. Any St Aug that might think about living will be dead in a month.
I’m on my 3rd season with SA this spring and I pretty much hate it.
Easily the most temperamental grass I’ve ever had to deal with.
It’s like dating a model, looks great occasionally in public but a huge pain in the arse to deal with the rest of the time.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:24 pm to tide06
Yup. When people say Bermuda is a grass that takes a lot of effort I just think about waking up every day and looking at your St Aug/centipede to see what disease it decided to get:
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:25 am to ronk
Even the yard mastery guy, who seems to be doing something to his St Aug daily and lives in Tampa where the grass doesn't go dormant, is resodding sections of his lawn seemingly every year.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:28 am to Greenie10
My St. Aug has yet to turn green yet as well. Im worried it picked up some sort of disease.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:32 am to ronk
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I just think about waking up every day and looking at your St Aug/centipede to see what disease it decided to get:
My neighbor has had it for the last ten years and puts down fungicide preventatively.
I try to avoid using unnecessary chemicals but Im starting to believe he’s right.
Too much rain? Disease
Too much clay? Disease
Too little fertilizer? Thins out
Too much fertilizer? Thatch
Torpedo grass? No treatment
Top dress sand? Runners won’t spread
It really is like a high drama spouse.
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