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Whole house water filter?
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:55 pm
Anyone have a whole house water filter? I’m pretty sure the calcium in my nola water destroyed 2 ice makers and will likely destroy my tankless water heater if I don’t do anything about it. Anyone have a whole house water filter? If so, which one did you get and why? How much was it?
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:08 pm to Neauxla
Aquasana million gallon system. I think I paid 800 for the system. Had it installed by a plumber for $600. Love it. Cleared up skin issues and I can no longer smell the chlorine in the water. Easily a must have purchase in my neighborhood.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:44 am to Neauxla
While home water filters have become a must have item for our family. We are in a rental while building a new house and are miserable with the crappy water.
I have had two different systems, one from https://www.uswatersystems.com/ and one from Culligan. Each was a salt water softener plus filter system. After install they both cost around $3k the us water system a little less but my plumber didn't know what he was doing so it cost me more than it should have.
There are a lot of different filters you can buy depending on your water quality. One big thing you will see a lot of mis information about online is salt free softener v salt. The chemistry is clear on this salt is required to actually remove the minerals from the water. Salt free systems can be "water conditioner's" where they alter the minerals in a way which prevents scale buildup but they are still present in the water.
There is a lot of good info on that us water systems website to educate yourself, also on YouTube just beware of the videos pushing those magical do everything filters.
I have had two different systems, one from https://www.uswatersystems.com/ and one from Culligan. Each was a salt water softener plus filter system. After install they both cost around $3k the us water system a little less but my plumber didn't know what he was doing so it cost me more than it should have.
There are a lot of different filters you can buy depending on your water quality. One big thing you will see a lot of mis information about online is salt free softener v salt. The chemistry is clear on this salt is required to actually remove the minerals from the water. Salt free systems can be "water conditioner's" where they alter the minerals in a way which prevents scale buildup but they are still present in the water.
There is a lot of good info on that us water systems website to educate yourself, also on YouTube just beware of the videos pushing those magical do everything filters.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:46 am to Neauxla
I would recommend a whole house softener and filtration system. Be sure the filtration system has activated carbon filtration at a minimum. Higher end systems will have other stages of filtration that might include copper/zinc, antimicrobial resins, garnet or other stones for pH adjustment, etc.
If you have chloramines present that you want to get rid of, you will likely need a final UV light stage to fully deactivate the chloramines. Carbon alone cannot do it. If you have a vendor tell you otherwise, find another vendor.
I have softener, stones, activated carbon and copper/zinc with a UV light finisher. It has been awesome. Cost me about $3,000 final installed. The carbon has to be replaced once a year for about $50 and the UV light has to be replaced once a year for about $60. We go through one 40lb bag of salt ($5) about every 3 months.
If you have chloramines present that you want to get rid of, you will likely need a final UV light stage to fully deactivate the chloramines. Carbon alone cannot do it. If you have a vendor tell you otherwise, find another vendor.
I have softener, stones, activated carbon and copper/zinc with a UV light finisher. It has been awesome. Cost me about $3,000 final installed. The carbon has to be replaced once a year for about $50 and the UV light has to be replaced once a year for about $60. We go through one 40lb bag of salt ($5) about every 3 months.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 8:50 am
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:49 am to humblepie
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The chemistry is clear on this salt is required to actually remove the minerals from the water.
potassium works well too but it is quite a bit more expensive than salt. the good thing about potassium is it is harmless. You can use the water and grass or plants with no concerns.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:19 am to notsince98
Is it usable in a normal softener without modification?
Also, My comment was in regards to the large number of "no salt softeners" you see advertised.
Also, My comment was in regards to the large number of "no salt softeners" you see advertised.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:25 am to humblepie
So I assume I cannot use a salt softener and then water my lawn?
I guess I need to branch off for all my hoses before the water softener?
I guess I need to branch off for all my hoses before the water softener?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:28 am to humblepie
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Is it usable in a normal softener without modification?
Also, My comment was in regards to the large number of "no salt softeners" you see advertised.
If this is about potassium, yes. Almost all salt softeners can use potassium. It reduces the efficiency slightly. So if your water is typically a hardness of something like 8 grains, you might have to up the softener setting to 9 or 10 grains if you switch to potassium.
And I agree with you about the water conditioners vs softeners. The conditioners do not do the same thing.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 9:31 am
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:30 am to Neauxla
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So I assume I cannot use a salt softener and then water my lawn?
I guess I need to branch off for all my hoses before the water softener?
Correct. Ideally, all outside water taps and especially sprinkler systems should be before the water softener to avoid using soft water outside.
Also note that water softeners will reduce the lifespan of your water heater anode rods if you have a tank water heater. You will need to replace the anode rod (usually about $15 and 5 minutes to DIY) about every 2 years instead of 6-10 years.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 9:32 am
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:45 am to notsince98
quote:tankless. Another reason I gotta get rid of all this calcium
Also note that water softeners will reduce the lifespan of your water heater anode rods if you have a tank water heater. You will need to replace the anode rod (usually about $15 and 5 minutes to DIY) about every 2 years instead of 6-10 years.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:53 am to Neauxla
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will likely destroy my tankless water heater if I don’t do anything about it
Do you descale your tankless heater every year? It is a pretty simple process if the unit was installed properly.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 11:04 am to Neauxla
quote:Yes, I have a whole house filter and water softener, but I live in limestone capital, San Antonio.
Anyone have a whole house water filter?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:16 pm to UltimaParadox
quote:and how do I do that?
Do you descale your tankless heater every year? It is a pretty simple process if the unit was installed properly.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:17 pm to Neauxla
I-spring 3 filter system, customize your filters for your what you want to trap, I had Iron and Manganese problem.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:23 pm to Neauxla
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and how do I do that?
Youtube Descale Rinnai
There are some better youtube videos out there, but this is the one directly from Rinnai. Just use straight vinegar instead of the store bought formulations.
I let it run 45 minutes to 1 hour once a year. Should keep the minerals from building up. Really simple
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:51 pm to UltimaParadox
looks like I need to buy a pump 
Posted on 5/4/20 at 8:50 pm to Neauxla
I have aquasana as well. Paid $1700 for mine but it’s the balls to the wall setup with pre, post, and UV filter.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:42 pm to humblepie
Which system did you like more? Did the 3k include install?
I got my first quote today for $5700
was by nolawater which sells Kinetico products
I got my first quote today for $5700
was by nolawater which sells Kinetico productsPosted on 5/4/20 at 10:45 pm to ItNeverRains
Does that include water softener?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:39 am to Neauxla
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Does that include water softener
Yes. From tankless it’s prefilter, whole house filter, water softener, post filter, UV filter, into house.
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