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Tips for cedar fence installation

Posted on 10/26/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 3:41 pm
Approximately 355 LNF

1. Choosing cedar over pine
2. 3 horizon runners for 6 ft. fence
3. 4-inch gap between the bottom of the fence and the ground
4. Utilize galvanized rink shank nails
5. Spray with weather sealant every couple of years

Anything else I am missing?

Edited. Price is around $9,100.00 - Baton Rouge area.

Also, any concerns about using cedar boards in the humidity of Louisiana?
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 4:14 pm
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7132 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 4:15 pm to
Not an expert but here's what I notice:

quote:

4-inch gap between the bottom of the fence and the ground

Lower to 2 inches instead of 4? Seems awfully high off the ground and allows for any critter to get in with ease. Maybe even go as low to the ground as allowed without touching?

Also, I have noticed a lot more H&G people say to go with galvanized steel fence posts instead of wood, which would drastically increase the cost. I may be wrong on the specific steel mentioned.
Posted by Sir Saint
1 post
Member since Jun 2010
5427 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Spray with weather sealant every couple of years


I would stain it instead of using Thompson water seal or related product. It’ll hold its color better and will look 10x better 5 years from now. A real stain would probably be best but it’s gonna be too much work to backbrush in stain for 350 feet. Ready Seal is self leveling and super simple to apply (sprayed out of a pump sprayer), that’s what I’d do if it were me.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
23324 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 4:26 pm to
I like the Thompson water seal but applied very lightly. Makes it look more natural
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Lower to 2 inches instead of 4? Seems awfully high off the ground and allows for any critter to get in with ease. Maybe even go as low to the ground as allowed without touching?


I have big dogs, and I am not concerned about them slipping under. I thought being higher would help with my weedeater not chewing into the boards. Will 2-inches still accomplish this?
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9233 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Will 2-inches still accomplish this?


How high off the ground do you weed eat? 2" is plenty and doesn't invite your big dogs to try and dig out
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

How high off the ground do you weed eat? 2" is plenty and doesn't invite your big dogs to try and dig out


I'll look at adjusting to 2".
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11398 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 8:30 pm to
Cedar will be fine in LA. I do not seal, just let it turn a natural gray.

Just peeked at my back fence and the boards are straight across the top, but do vary from 2-4" from the ground.

Using metal posts?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:13 pm to
Going with 4 x 6 posts. Trying to save a little where I can.
Posted by ewilliams000
Castor Springs
Member since Feb 2012
1997 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 10:13 am to
Place top horizonal board about 8" from top of fence. Place too low, then top of your fence boards will start to curl as they weather. Also use decking screws always. Nails will slowly start backing out. For poor boy treating, I used half and half mixture of cheap motor oil mixed with kerosene. That was years ago. Sorry, motor oil not cheap anymore. Best to use your Company's motor oil stockpile tanks. They won't miss 3 gallons. I wouldn't tell the neighbors nor the tree huggers.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11398 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 11:45 am to
Going with 4 x 6 posts. Trying to save a little where I can.
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What's the difference in price between metal and wood posts?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Place top horizonal board about 8" from top of fence.


I had read 5" from the top, which I thought may be too high. 8" seems more reasonable.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

What's the difference in price between metal and wood posts?


4 x 6 post are around $40 each. I thought metal would be more expensive, but a quick glance, unless I am looking at the wrong thing shows them to be less expensive.

Is this right?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Nails will slowly start backing out.


Correct, regular nails will back out. The rink shank nails aren't supposed to do that. At least from what I have read.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11398 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:34 pm to
4 x 6 post are around $40 each. I thought metal would be more expensive, but a quick glance, unless I am looking at the wrong thing shows them to be less expensive.

Is this right?

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I don't know, but ask for another quote with metal.

I have 40 year old galvanized posts that are still good.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
38979 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 1:54 pm to
4x6 posts are fine but susceptible to warp

I used deck screws - no nails
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39461 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:02 pm to
Approximately $25 LNF is good price today for cedar?

I'm going to check on the price difference for galvanized steel posts vs. cedar posts (4 x 6).

Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
2453 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 11:53 pm to
DIY isn’t hard if you can run a string line, you’re set.
Spray or roll cedar with oil stain, not sealant.
Preferably do board on board with treated pine
2x6 toe(4” seems too high but may be necessary if elevation is whacky). A 1x4 cedar top face and 2x6 cedar top plate really enhances the look and gives extra inches. Wood gates will sag over time. I prefer metal frame. Not sure about humidity(DFW here) but cedar can last a very long time if you keep it oiled.
Use metal posts but remember to put the caps on them.
Price for fence described is $20-24 DIY and $36-40 contractor.
This post was edited on 10/27/24 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3420 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:00 pm to
We have galvanized posts. They’ve held up from “the storm” onward. Ida did crack one so it was replaced. Otherwise, all has been good. I can’t imagine wooden posts hold so well.
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