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Tip for reinstalling toilet in a small space? (Updated: Success!)

Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:38 am
Posted by covlatiger
Member since Feb 2006
2321 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:38 am
Replaced wax seal on toilet, but having a devil of a time getting it to line up with screws in flange to reinstall. Small space so it’s basically a one-person job - but can’t really see the screws/holes to line it up. Screws move if I miss the hole so I can’t really slide the toilet to correct. Toilet is also heavy. Thx!
This post was edited on 1/28/23 at 4:57 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9798 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:06 am to
Many of us have had the same situation.

The bolts that fit in the flange and stick up should have plastic pieces that hold them in place. But frequently the bolts have been sawed off and you have less legnth to work with. If they aren't sticking up much then pick some more up:

LINK

Next is straddling over the bowl and picking it up on the sides. You can walk it into place this way.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21921 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:08 am to
Can you put the bolts in and run a nut down to the flange to hold them in place till you get the toilet over it.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1131 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:27 am to
Tie a string to the tip of the bolts. stack a couple scraps of 2x4 to rest the toilet on over the hole. Feed string through the holes and lean the toilet to one side to remove the 2x4, pull string through and repeat on other side. Did this once and it worked.
Posted by covlatiger
Member since Feb 2006
2321 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:24 am to
Thanks for the suggestions - really appreciated! The plastic washers that were supposed to temporarily hold the screws upright gave way after a few attempts. May try metal or a possibly a thin nut (as suggested) to see how that goes. Will try one or both in conjunction with the string as well. Just have to wait for my back to settle down after trying for two hours this past weekend. Thanks again - TD once again comes through!
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9798 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:14 pm to
May try metal or a possibly a thin nut (as suggested) to see how that goes.
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Just be careful you run the risk of breaking the flange. I'd go get a pack of bolts for $5 with the plastic pieces.

Straddle the bowl and your back will be better. That's the way plumbers do it.
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4746 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:32 pm to
I add putty to the bolts to keep them in place on the wax ring, then slide toliet down on them.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1208 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 1:44 pm to
The plastic washers are the way to go, they’re included for a reason and should work enough to get the bolts through the holes in the toilet.

I do like the putty idea as well. That will also do the job. Maybe even work better if you are a little shaky.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4465 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Tie a string to the tip of the bolts. stack a couple scraps of 2x4 to rest the toilet on over the hole. Feed string through the holes and lean the toilet to one side to remove the 2x4, pull string through and repeat on other side. Did this once and it worked.




This is exactly what I do.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1174 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 6:14 pm to
I've gone to using sythetic "wax" rings. Korky makes a decent one an saniseal is suppose to be the best but I haven't tried it. My issue with wax is if the floor is unlevel at all it will rock and can break the seal with wax. This can even happen during install when shimming an unlevel toilet. Those tiny leaks under toilets are the worst. At least with a big leak you can address the problem quickly.

Of course they are 5-10x the price of wax but still a nominal cost. And of course in OP case would make installing easier since you can flounder about a bit and not mess up wax.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1208 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:06 pm to
They do make extra thick wax rings for floors that are undeveloped. Or you can just double up the regular ones.
That being said, the last few I’ve installed I used the “better than wax” cushion type.
Posted by covlatiger
Member since Feb 2006
2321 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 4:56 pm to
Was finally able to get back to it today - success!!

Used all suggestions: careful to straddle, used string to help line up, used some putty to help stop screws from moving, put in on blocks for final shifting, etc.

Took two tries, but was finally able to get it seated. Now the flapper isn't sealing all the way (probably dried out the week or so I had the water out) but replacing that (tomorrow's trip to Home Depot) will be a piece of cake.

Thanks again for the suggestions - GREATLY appreciated.
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