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starting seeds for fall gardens

Posted on 6/13/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by bonescanner
Member since Oct 2011
2249 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 11:42 am
How early do you fellas start your seeds to get ready for fall gardens? I'm going to do everything from a seed in a small greenhouse this year vs buying plants.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 12:20 pm to
I am going to plant the seeds this week. We have a vacation in mid-late July and I want them planted right before we leave. They'd dry out over the time we're gone. If I wait til after to start the seeds, I think I'll be too late. I have drip irrigation on a timer in the garden.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9375 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 1:44 pm to
Where do you get your seeds? Online?

ETA: Found in other threads. Are these still the go-to?

Reimer Seeds
Harris Seeds
Gurney's
Baker Creek
Park Seed

Are there advantages to starting in pots vs sowing directly into the garden? Is a grow light required for fall plants, or can they be started indoors or out?
This post was edited on 6/13/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15135 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 2:27 pm to
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Are there advantages to starting in pots vs sowing directly into the garden? Is a grow light required for fall plants, or can they be started indoors or out?


You can start seeds in pots earlier than you can directly in the soil, especially in the summer months with all the high heat we have here in the deep south. Seeds started directly in the soil too early and sprout can find the plants being burned to a crisp since the roots are so close to the top of the soil.

I direct sow everything that I plant in bulk. For the fall garden that includes cucumbers, beans, Swiss chard, Kale, several varieties of leaf lettuces, beets, onions, etc.

Stuff I start early or simply buy from a nursery in 4 or 6 packs are things like broccoli, collards, cauliflower, cabbage, Brussel sprouts, etc. since I only put about 10 each of those in the ground.

If you start the seeds and have the pots outdoors, you don't want them in the direct sunlight during the hottest part of the day or they'll likely be fried in no time. Keep them under indirect sunlight and make sure they are well watered to promote good root development.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 2:59 pm to
The only thing I'll be planting this month is pumpkin seeds. I have followed the LSU Ag planting guide for years for everything else and it has worked out well for me. You could start some heat set tomato seeds this month and transplant them in July. Personally I don't think I'll be doing any fall tomatoes this year. If I do I'll probably just do a few early girls and start seeds in July.

Stuff like broccoli, cauliflower, collards, cabbage, and mustard greens I usually wait until mid August to start seeds. Carrots in September. Onion seed and garlic cloves in October.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9375 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 3:00 pm to
OP, according to this thread from last year, looks as if September is a good target for having stuff in the ground.

I’m new to this myself so trying to get as much info on timing as possible.

2021 Fall Garden
This post was edited on 6/13/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Reimer Seeds


I would avoid them. On more than a few occasions they have sent me mislabeled seeds. Seems to be a common problem with them when reading other reviews of the company. But they do often have some harder to find varieties and may be worth the gamble from time to time. The others you listed I’ve never had a single problem. And I’ve ordered from all of them.

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Are there advantages to starting in pots vs sowing directly into the garden?


Some things don’t take transplanting well. And sometimes it’s better to start them in a controlled environment until the weather conditions are more favorable. This extends the growing season and helps with chances of success. Any sort of vining crop I usually direct sow (beans, cucumbers, melons, etc.), also okra, mustards, carrots, and sunflowers.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15135 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Where do you get your seeds? Online?



In the New Orleans area, I usually get seeds from Jefferson Feed on Central Ave. in Metairie or the big box stores like Lowes or Home Depot. All of them have a very large selection of seeds, both vegetable and flowering. Jeff. Feed has much better prices on stuff in the 4 and 6 packs already started if you go that route.

For stuff I have to order, I get them from Johnny's Selected Seeds or Baker Creek, but deal with Johnny's more often.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15320 posts
Posted on 6/13/22 at 8:12 pm to
I have kale and lettuce already in my aerogardens. They are all about 6" tall. 30 of them. They will go in soil in long narrow pots in my shop until fall.

I keep them on rotation year round from fresh salad.
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