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soffit lighting installation

Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by mrservon
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
438 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:24 pm
Anyone done this recently or have any experience?

I remodeled an older home that has 3' eaves about a year ago. didn't even think about it then with all the other shite going on during the renovation.

but I would like to do this in the coming months.

definitely going with LED & would like to have a flush mounted fixture. all the ones I am seeing are 6" and beyond.

Bluetooth and the multicolored function would be a benefit but not necessary.

any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8966 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:15 pm to
Might consider strip lights in channel.



Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:38 pm to
Cut holes, run wires, enjoy.
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
300 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:25 pm to
I was all set to add the under eave downlighting. After reading the blog linked and walking around the neighborhood at night, I am going with up lighting only.

LINK

The soffit lighting looks horrible. Bright light up top and not much below.

But, to answer your question. Lithonia lighting has some 3 and 4 inch integrated box options. The ones I was getting were the ones with gimbals.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

After reading the blog linked and walking around the neighborhood at night, I am going with up lighting only.

LINK

The soffit lighting looks horrible. Bright light up top and not much below.


Most accent lighting, when done poorly, looks terrible. The blog you posted put some real shitty examples up, and was pretty disingenuous. The best way is a combination of both using appropriate beam spread angles to accent Architectural features, and to provide the illusion of depth.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

definitely going with LED & would like to have a flush mounted fixture. all the ones I am seeing are 6" and beyond.

Bluetooth and the multicolored function would be a benefit but not necessary.


4” remodel cans with Nora’s Prism series trim will give you all of these things
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
300 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:29 pm to
More to think about. All I really want to do is to light up specific plants and wash a couple of walls.

I didn’t see any listing of beam spread for the fixtures I looked at. Maybe I have to go to the insert or manu site for that.

The real life examples in my neighborhood were bad. And, the same could be said for some of the houses with up lighting.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:37 pm to
Deal with a lighting professional instead of buying from a big box store or online. Different lumen packages, color temps, beam spreads etc can all have an impact. Sometimes having the same fixture throughout the soffit isn’t the right solution. You may need a narrower beam spread between windows, or a wider flood on a big uninterrupted expanse of a wall.

I just can’t get behind trusting that blog when their examples of uplighting are warm lights appropriately installed and their examples of downlighting are daylight (which always looks terrible) and appear to be cheap fixtures

ETA: I do agree that there are a lot of homes with bad downlighting in the soffits. Probably has a lot to do with lighting design being out of most electricians or contractors realms of expertise. There are very few people left anymore who truly understand how to use light
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1450 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

I was all set to add the under eave downlighting. After reading the blog linked and walking around the neighborhood at night, I am going with up lighting only.


I was in the exact same boat and am very glad I decided to go with landscape lighting instead. With that being said there are a few areas I will be installing soffit downlights in the next few weeks because landscape lighting is not feasible (soffit above carport, at doors of shop, side storage yard, side walkway, etc). I am also wiring all of the soffit lights to be on a smart dimmer switch to be able to program it for dusk to dawn and control the brightness. Go with a landscape lighting kit everywhere you can and you wont be disappointed.

Landscape lighting: Volt

Soffit lighting: Torchstar 6"
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6365 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

I am going with up lighting only.

Smart. Nothing looks as good. Soffit lighting looks like trash. Even when done the correct way... up spots >>> down lighting
Posted by mrservon
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
438 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:12 am to
Thanks for the input, Bee Rye.

Can you recommend any lighting pros in BR? I do need someone who knows what they are talking about that can help walk me through it. not afraid to spend the money if I know it will be done right.

Also, I am starting to second guess myself on the downlighting. everyone here seems to hate it. LOL.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:04 am to
I hate it too. It is a waste of electricity, doesn’t improve the appearance of architecturally ordinary houses, and is surely a case of “contractor trend” and keeping up with the Joneses. In most applications, it looks downright cheesy.

Now, let’s get to the biggest drawback of the stuff in our climate: it attracts sh*loads of bugs, which in turn attract spiders, lizards, etc. All of those will create dirt: dirt from the dead bugs entrapped by the spiders, dirt from the lizard poop, general crud from the swarming gnats, no see-ums, and other critters attracted by the lights and things that feed on them.

Next door neighbor’s house is loaded with accent lighting: soffit downlighting over every damn window, additional accent lighting along the walls, a yard full of up lights on trees and bushes. That poor bastard power-washes 2-3x a year, and can’t figure out why his house is always looking spotty/dirty. Meanwhile, I have zero exterior lighting, aside from porch lights that are only turned on for a couple hours in the evening in fall/winter: the bricks are clean & I don’t have streamers of cobwebs festooning my screens.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Can you recommend any lighting pros in BR?


Notoco is probably your best bet in Baton Rouge. Not sure who their best salespeople are though
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Now, let’s get to the biggest drawback of the stuff in our climate: it attracts sh*loads of bugs, which in turn attract spiders, lizards, etc. All of those will create dirt: dirt from the dead bugs entrapped by the spiders, dirt from the lizard poop, general crud from the swarming gnats, no see-ums, and other critters attracted by the lights and things that feed on them.


LED’s don’t emit UV and put off less heat, which is what attracts bugs. If you are the only lights around, you will still attract them, but they would be more likely to head for a street light or someone else’s incandescents if you are in a neighborhood
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2721 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

bee Rye
You seem knowledgeable on the topic.

What would be your recommendation for ground lights for DIY. Seems super easy to run some cables and stick some lights in the ground.
Posted by STATigerFan
St. Amant, LA
Member since Sep 2019
123 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:59 pm to
I have led landscape lights that face upward toward my house. The front porch ceiling gets covered in bugs and I have to wash it down every few months. I was thinking about installing soffit lighting and hoping to get rid of the bugs and crap that attach themselves to the ceiling and die but it sounds like it might not help much.
Posted by mrservon
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
438 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:46 am to
STATigerFan

If bugs/spiderwebs are your problem under your eaves and in the carport, look for a spray on product called Suspend.

Gotta mix it in a pump sprayer and just spray it up under there. Didn't leave any residue that I could notice and eliminated the issue for me.
Posted by STATigerFan
St. Amant, LA
Member since Sep 2019
123 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:43 pm to
Ok thanks. I’ll give it a shot.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

What would be your recommendation for ground lights for DIY. Seems super easy to run some cables and stick some lights in the ground.



you definitely want low voltage. a lot of posters on here swear by Volt Lighting, but as I am in distribution and they are a factory direct company, I can't speak for their quality or customer service. WAC Lighting has a product where you can change beam spreads and lumen output on a fixture with a screwdriver. I am a real big fan of that product because you can use the same fixture throughout your garden and just change those settings to the appropriate levels for what you are trying to highlight. Also allows for you to spread the beam as plants grow which makes it very versatile working for new growth plants with tight beams and spreading it out as the plants or trees fill out more ( Spec sheet for that fixture))
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:12 pm to
Soffit lighting belongs on prisons only.
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