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Scotts EZ Seed problems....
Posted on 9/3/21 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 1:52 pm
Has anyone ever had issues with Scotts EZ Seed killing their lawn?
I had some patches from dog urine that I was trying to repair, along with a few areas in the yard that just weren't quite as thick as the rest. Fast forward a month and a half to now, and the spots aren't filled at all, and the other areas where I put the seed Are almost completely dead.
Any idea what could be causing this?
I had some patches from dog urine that I was trying to repair, along with a few areas in the yard that just weren't quite as thick as the rest. Fast forward a month and a half to now, and the spots aren't filled at all, and the other areas where I put the seed Are almost completely dead.
Any idea what could be causing this?
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Posted on 9/3/21 at 2:33 pm to im4LSU
Those are often cool season grass seeds in those patch/repair mixtures like fescue, rye, etc. so I suspect heat stress has killed it, do you know type of grass seeds are in the Scott’s EZ , is it stated on the label? Any Bermudagrass seed in it?
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 2:34 pm to im4LSU
Grass seed had nothing to do with that. What type of grass? It could be grubs, chinch bugs, army worms, web worms, disease, etc.
Also, pictures would help.
Also, pictures would help.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:09 pm to CrawDude
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Those are often cool season grass feeds in those patch/repair mixtures like fescue, rye, etc. so I suspect heat stress has killed it
This is the issue I have with the areas I've seeded with Scotts EZ. It looks good in the spring but by August, the heat of the summer has created bare spots. It's in the same general area every year. It's the only parts of the yard seeded with that, so that's the conclusion I've come to. But I need to just get better seed to lay down there.
I'm very amateurish at this. I don't even know what my back yard grass is. But I need to find out and get more of that seed.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 3:19 pm to ProjectP2294
It will say the seed type on the back of the jug. Craw is right that it could be rye or fescue but if the OP is saying that the grass seed his killing areas of his lawn then that wouldn't be the case.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:25 pm to CrawDude
It's centipede grass.
I'd say this could be the case if it weren't for the fact that the only areas that are dead are the only areas that I spread the seed out. You can even see the path that I walked from one part of the yard to the other where I sprinkled along the way. I also use Scott's triple action weed and feed twice a year as well to keep the bugs away as best as I can.
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Grass seed had nothing to do with that. What type of grass? It could be grubs, chinch bugs, army worms, web worms, disease, etc.
I'd say this could be the case if it weren't for the fact that the only areas that are dead are the only areas that I spread the seed out. You can even see the path that I walked from one part of the yard to the other where I sprinkled along the way. I also use Scott's triple action weed and feed twice a year as well to keep the bugs away as best as I can.
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:29 pm to ronk
Yes - I miss interpreted the OP’s question - grass seed from Scott EZ would not be killing his other lawn grass in non-bare spots, that’s another issue. Army worm damage to lawns has been reported by a number of posters on the H&G board, perhaps that’s an issue? If the OP could post photos of the lawn damage that might help ID the issue.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:33 pm to CrawDude
I'll try to get some pictures when I get back home.
Might need a little help with posting them, I'm not exactly sure how to do the whole image hosting thing.
Might need a little help with posting them, I'm not exactly sure how to do the whole image hosting thing.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 4:48 pm to im4LSU
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also use Scott's triple action weed and feed twice a year as well to keep the bugs away as best as I can.
Did you recently apply this to areas that are dying? Herbicides used in that weed & feed product can damage a lawn in this heat.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 5:26 pm to im4LSU
Seeding centipede is generally a waste of time and money. Sod or plugs is the best way to fill in spots.
If you get dog urine spots here is my recommendation. First hand rake the area to remove dead and moist grass. Then fill with mushroom compost.
If you get dog urine spots here is my recommendation. First hand rake the area to remove dead and moist grass. Then fill with mushroom compost.
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:16 pm to im4LSU
This first pic is of part of the yard that is still healthy. The front yard is even thicker and greener.
This one is of the urine spots I was trying to patch
This one is of an area that was a recently resided. One of my dogs dug a couple of holes and I hadn't repaired them. They were coming in nice and full until I put the seed down to try to fill in some bare spots in between the sod.
This is the one that gets me. You can see the exact path that I took from one area of the yard to the other. That little area was slightly thinner than the rest of the yard so I put some down there but it looks like I was trying to make a pathway.
This is another area that was just as full and green as the first picture...
As for the question above about spreading the weed and feed recently, I did do it about the same time as I put the ez seed down. I had about half a bag left so I spread it very thinly throughout the entire yard. Nowhere near the amount that I normally do. I normally do it at the beginning of spring and mid to late October but since I was already doing this I figured I'd just go ahead and put it down. I'm wondering if the two may be having a reaction together.
Side note: My wife is laying here next to me giggling that I keep telling men on the internet about spreading my seed
This one is of the urine spots I was trying to patch
This one is of an area that was a recently resided. One of my dogs dug a couple of holes and I hadn't repaired them. They were coming in nice and full until I put the seed down to try to fill in some bare spots in between the sod.
This is the one that gets me. You can see the exact path that I took from one area of the yard to the other. That little area was slightly thinner than the rest of the yard so I put some down there but it looks like I was trying to make a pathway.
This is another area that was just as full and green as the first picture...
As for the question above about spreading the weed and feed recently, I did do it about the same time as I put the ez seed down. I had about half a bag left so I spread it very thinly throughout the entire yard. Nowhere near the amount that I normally do. I normally do it at the beginning of spring and mid to late October but since I was already doing this I figured I'd just go ahead and put it down. I'm wondering if the two may be having a reaction together.
Side note: My wife is laying here next to me giggling that I keep telling men on the internet about spreading my seed
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:35 pm to im4LSU
Several things going on. First get the seed idea out of your head. It didn’t cause it, didn’t contribute, and no interaction with anything.
Take a close up picture of your runners because your first pic is St Aug but the other pics are from too far away.
Do you have a drop spreader and was it cleaned and washed out.
Do your kids use the play area and do you and the dogs walk around the deck or over it.
3rd what’s the rain/watering situation been?
Take a close up picture of your runners because your first pic is St Aug but the other pics are from too far away.
Do you have a drop spreader and was it cleaned and washed out.
Do your kids use the play area and do you and the dogs walk around the deck or over it.
3rd what’s the rain/watering situation been?
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:08 pm to ronk
I'll get a close-up picture tomorrow.
I do have a drop spreader and the only thing that it's used for is the weed and feed. I just kind of spot treated by hand with the ez seed.
The Play place has only been up for about 2 weeks and it's been too hot to be used very frequently. They've played with it five or six times for about 10 minutes at the most maybe
I work offshore 2 weeks at a time so the 2 weeks that I'm home I water it once or twice if we've gone a few days with no rain. But that hasn't really been the case as of late. It seems like we've been getting pretty regular afternoon showers plus a few downpours here and there. Like I said the front yard is perfect. It's thick and green. So much so that my wife even mentioned it about 2 weeks ago after I cut it. She said it looked like a carpet out there which I was very proud of because she never notices anything like that lol
I do have a drop spreader and the only thing that it's used for is the weed and feed. I just kind of spot treated by hand with the ez seed.
The Play place has only been up for about 2 weeks and it's been too hot to be used very frequently. They've played with it five or six times for about 10 minutes at the most maybe
I work offshore 2 weeks at a time so the 2 weeks that I'm home I water it once or twice if we've gone a few days with no rain. But that hasn't really been the case as of late. It seems like we've been getting pretty regular afternoon showers plus a few downpours here and there. Like I said the front yard is perfect. It's thick and green. So much so that my wife even mentioned it about 2 weeks ago after I cut it. She said it looked like a carpet out there which I was very proud of because she never notices anything like that lol
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:44 pm to im4LSU
I also noticed pine needles. You’re in an acidic soil area. Might need a soil sample sent off.
Posted on 9/4/21 at 9:12 am to ronk
I was thinking of trying some celsius. Think I should look into sampling the soil first?
Posted on 9/4/21 at 10:23 am to im4LSU
The photos help but are not definitive.
I agree with ronk the grass appears to be St Augustine and not centipede, pulling a stolon = “runner”) as ronk suggested and looking at the leaf arrangement on the runner will confirm that. If you post a picture we can tell you.
The atrazine herbicide in Weed & Feed applied 6 weeks ago could have contributed to the death of the grass indirectly or indirectly via stress. Just for future reference, restrict weed & feed (with atrazine) applications to early spring (March/April) but many of us would suggest you not use W&F, and just stick with lawn fertilizer and use herbicides only for weed control.
Honestly also looks to me like a disease issue but not really sure. How is the drainage/ standing water back there during heavy, repeated rains? I see a downspout nearby. Is the pathway with dead grass lower than other areas and tend to hold water? You think your backyard is pretty compacted?
A soil analysis is always a good idea to have background info, and results can help in determining any potential deficiencies that need to be addressed.
Celsius is an excellent herbicide to control weeds in summer - what kind of weeds are you trying to control? Not sure it’s a good idea though to be applying herbicide in the backyard if the lawn is under stress, though if weeds are appearing where grass is definitely dead that won’t hurt anything. You wouldn’t need the soil analysis first before appying herbicide.
I agree with ronk the grass appears to be St Augustine and not centipede, pulling a stolon = “runner”) as ronk suggested and looking at the leaf arrangement on the runner will confirm that. If you post a picture we can tell you.
The atrazine herbicide in Weed & Feed applied 6 weeks ago could have contributed to the death of the grass indirectly or indirectly via stress. Just for future reference, restrict weed & feed (with atrazine) applications to early spring (March/April) but many of us would suggest you not use W&F, and just stick with lawn fertilizer and use herbicides only for weed control.
Honestly also looks to me like a disease issue but not really sure. How is the drainage/ standing water back there during heavy, repeated rains? I see a downspout nearby. Is the pathway with dead grass lower than other areas and tend to hold water? You think your backyard is pretty compacted?
A soil analysis is always a good idea to have background info, and results can help in determining any potential deficiencies that need to be addressed.
Celsius is an excellent herbicide to control weeds in summer - what kind of weeds are you trying to control? Not sure it’s a good idea though to be applying herbicide in the backyard if the lawn is under stress, though if weeds are appearing where grass is definitely dead that won’t hurt anything. You wouldn’t need the soil analysis first before appying herbicide.
Posted on 9/4/21 at 3:38 pm to CrawDude
Is this big enough to tell?
This is just a close up of the healthy part of the backyard...
The drainage in the backyard is excellent except for one small area. It was really one of the selling points for the house. When we first looked at the house, it was after a big downpour and there was hardly any water in the backyard at all. The part with the "pathway" definitely does not hold water. The only part of the yard that holds any water is the part that I had mentioned earlier that was resoded. And up until I put the weed and feed and the seed down, it was coming in very nicely.
This is just a close up of the healthy part of the backyard...
The drainage in the backyard is excellent except for one small area. It was really one of the selling points for the house. When we first looked at the house, it was after a big downpour and there was hardly any water in the backyard at all. The part with the "pathway" definitely does not hold water. The only part of the yard that holds any water is the part that I had mentioned earlier that was resoded. And up until I put the weed and feed and the seed down, it was coming in very nicely.
Posted on 9/4/21 at 5:25 pm to im4LSU
St Aug. Your backyard doesn’t have the airflow that your front yard has so when you fertilized the back you fed the leaf spot fungus. Reduce watering to an as needed basis and apply propiconizole.
Your front yard looks better because the grass blades don’t stay as wet as long.
Your front yard looks better because the grass blades don’t stay as wet as long.
Posted on 9/4/21 at 6:37 pm to ronk
That makes a lot of sense. The backyard is fully fenced in on the east, south, and west sides and the house blocks the airflow from the north.
Also, I noticed a few different types of grass/ weeds. Any idea what these may be and how I might go about mitigating them?
This seems to be a different type of grass...
Also, I noticed a few different types of grass/ weeds. Any idea what these may be and how I might go about mitigating them?
This seems to be a different type of grass...
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