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re: Persimmon help/advice

Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by TimeOutdoors
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:00 pm to
Youtube

I’d spend some time on YouTube.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:22 pm to
Did that. A lot. Grafts are done. Now we wait.
Posted by Tree_Fall
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:50 am to
I planted a native persimmon sapling in BTR 3 years ago about this time of year. Each year it has developed a bad fungus infection of the leaves and looked awful. Last year I started spraying with a copper fungicide. It's leafing out quite densely right now, best it's ever looked. Main advice is... don't give up too soon.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:11 am to
Three weeks tomorrow. The best is pictured below(Rosseyanka). I have some confidence in one of the Nakita's gift grafts and pretty low confidence in all others.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:29 am to
I had given up on the graft to the right with the pink marker. Suddenly showing life. I read to be patient, but that's a big gap in time from the one on the left.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 3:25 pm to
Hell yeah. Looking like you knew what you were doing
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 4/28/26 at 6:48 pm to
Thanks. If I did, it was only because there are so many great resources out there. No telling how many hours of video I watched before it was time. A little disappointed that none of my whip/tongue grafts took, but those bark grafts on the main leaders were priority 1 anyway. I cannot tell you how happy I am that I have at least one of Rosseyanka and Nikita's Gift growing. I planted a Valeene Beauty too. I sure hope we like persimmons
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 1:51 pm to
Buy a new broom, you’re going to need it to sweep dem coons off ya porch.
Coons love dem persimmons
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 1:55 pm to
They will have to get in line with the possums.
Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:16 pm to
The toughest part if you have one of each variety in the same barkgraft is picking which one to keep.

If they both keep doing well, next spring you can graft the loser onto the winner so that you get to keep both

I am so happy you had success.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

The toughest part if you have one of each variety in the same barkgraft is picking which one to keep.

If they both keep doing well, next spring you can graft the loser onto the winner so that you get to keep both
I am going to need help with this part. So far, it's the cloudiest part of my research. I didn't expect all 4 of those Rosseyanka buds to grow. I assume I will need to eliminate some.
Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:01 pm to
You also need to raise your bird perch stick higher
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:29 am to
Seven week update. I just removed three branches as I know I had too many growing. May still have to remove more. I braced the scions with the most growth with bamboo and have been checking the tension as these suckers get fat fast. I moved away from zip ties as I was afraid of girdling. The Nikita's gift is already flowing, so I removed the ones I could see.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:55 am to
I have now reduced all bark grafts(3 took) to one bud each. All three have been topped. All now have bud growth. I guess I should just allow all these to grow unless someone tells me differently. Also, on one of my bark grafts, only one scion took, so I am letting the native buds at that cut line grow in the hopes it helps with healing. I can always remove them later.


Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:09 am to
damn dude you nailed that
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:13 am to
Thanks. I am super pleased with the results especially in season 1. Now I want to just go out and graft shite

But seriously, I am going to ask permission to do some work in a local park. Would be nice to have some improved American varieties added to the hundreds of native males they have out there.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:36 am to
These things just keep reaching for the sky. I am now thinking of leaving two hybrids going, and removing the rest to add improved American varieties next Spring.

Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 2:54 pm to
it looks wonderful, but you still have the forked trunk with bark inclusion

pick 1 of the 2 main trunks and cut the other off. That can be delayed till next spring or later so that you can take scion off of the fork to be sacrificed and graft it onto the permanent 1.

Grafting is fun!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
88273 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

but you still have the forked trunk with bark inclusion
I like to live dangerously. I will make a decision on that this Spring. I somewhat regret using hybrids, but didn't know then what I know now.

quote:

Grafting is fun!
I wish I had more trees!

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
88273 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 3:19 pm to
Oh, and I may try something like this:
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