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Posted on 10/20/19 at 6:26 pm
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 10/20/19 at 6:26 pm
My first time truly taking care of a yard besides just your standard mowing, edging, and weed eating. I am looking for a weed, fertilizer, etc plan. Need recommendations for products to use as well and typical time frame for putting it out. Not sure what type of grass I have but I have posted a picture, along with some of the weeds I currently have. I am located in Houston area. TIA.




This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 10/20/19 at 8:51 pm to
The bottom pic has a lot of torpedo grass. Good luck!
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2603 posts
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:38 pm to
This late in the year let the frost get the weeds. Pre-emerge and stay on a good pre-emerge program in late winter and spring.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:55 am to
Lawn grass looks like St Augustine. If the leaves are opposite each other on the stolon (above ground “stem”) it’s St Aug, if the leaves are alternate it would be centipede. Pic below, bottom is St Aug, and top is centipede.



Here is a maintenance calendar for St Aug by the Texas A&M Cooperative Extension Service LINK. Follow their research based recommendations on lawn maintenance.

Bottom picture “weed” appears to be common Bermudagrass. There is no selective herbicide that you can spray to remove bermudagrass from a St Aug lawn without killing the St Aug, just mow the St Aug at the proper height (don’t scalp it) and it should crowd out the Bermuda over time. Solid matts of Bermudagrass can be sprayed with glyphosate (generic “Roundup”) to kill it and the St Aug should fill in that area.

Not sure what the top pic weed is other than a probable annual broadleaf weed that can likely be controlled with a trimec type post-emergent herbicide - Fertilome Weed-Free-Zone is a good post emergent lawn herbicide for numerous broad-leaf weeds that can be used safely on St Aug lawns, spring and fall, but not in the extreme heat of summer when temps are in high 80s-90s. MSM Turf (metsulfuron methyl) is a an excellent inexpensive post emergent herbicide can be safely used to control many, not all, broadleaf weeds, in the extreme heat of summer. You can send the photo of the top pic weed to your your Texas A&M county extension agent for identification LINK

Use pre-emergent lawn herbicides, spring and fall - they are game changers in reducing lawn weed issues, along with proper mowing height and lawn fertilization. Now, ASAP, is the time to apply a fall application of lawn pre-emergent herbicide.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 6:06 pm to
Both pics contain torpedo. St Aug will not overtake that. You can either embrace the torpedo or scrape it out and replace the grass with Bermuda or zoysia so you can treat with quinclorac as needed. Or move.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Both pics contain torpedo.

Yep - you’re right it is Torpedograss. OP - as Daponch said torpedograss is going to be a serious issue for you. All I can suggest to you is to rely on the Texas Coop Extension Service for advice on possible control options but they will be limited, particularly if you have a St Aug lawn.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 8:51 am
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:02 pm to
Those TAMU links are good. Thanks!
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
764 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:03 am to
Is it ok to spray weeds with weed free zone now? I put down barricade a few weeks ago.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Is it ok to spray weeds with weed free zone now? I put down barricade a few weeks ago.

Yes it is - just remember to add a couple tbsp of surfactant (spreader/sticker) per gallon of spray solution to increase the absorption of the herbicide by the targeted weeds.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13238 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:56 am to
Go to MSUCARES. Com also. Mississippi State website. Very good info
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17984 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:55 pm to
you need to head over to thelawnforum.com
Posted by proturf
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2009
6 posts
Posted on 10/24/19 at 1:06 pm to
To take care of the weeds present in your pics you can spray Atrazine and the consumer grade Image (Iamazaquin is active ingredient). Check label closely as Image is now a brand and not just the product name. Tank mix at label directed rates and it'll clean it up nicely in a few weeks. You'll also get a few weeks of pre emergent activity out of the Atrazine but you will want to apply additional true pre emerge such as Barricade (Prodiamine) to extend that window. There is no torpedo grass present in your pics. The individual plants you pulled are St. Augustine. The other pics are common bermudagrass with a mix of weeds. Prickly Sida (Tea Weed), Purslane, Lespedeza, Thin or Bull Paspalum, and False Kyllinga is what I can make out in your photo. If St. Aug is your desired dominant grass then raise your mowing height to at least 3 inches. As for as a program to follow LSU Agcenter and Texas AM both have easy to follow guides as posted above. If this is an old lawn as it appears I'd recommend a fungicide on your St. Aug to help prevent severe brown patch that plagues the older varieties. Looks like there is already some activity on your plants you pulled.
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