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Overseeding - waste of $ or good idea?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:27 am
My lawn is mostly centipede with some other grasses in spots and various weeds. When I weed n feed the lawn greens up nice but gets thin in areas where weeds were (no surprise).
Is overseeding those areas worthwhile, enough to where the lawn will thicken and prevent some weed growth as well? Im just starting a pre-emergent program this year so hopefully the weeds disappear over next year or two.
If so, would you use bare seeds or get centipede patch repair product which comes with mulch and other stuff mixed in?
Is overseeding those areas worthwhile, enough to where the lawn will thicken and prevent some weed growth as well? Im just starting a pre-emergent program this year so hopefully the weeds disappear over next year or two.
If so, would you use bare seeds or get centipede patch repair product which comes with mulch and other stuff mixed in?
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:33 am to The Mick
Just do it right and remove the centipede and lay down Bermuda sod.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:57 am to The Mick
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Is overseeding those areas worthwhile, enough to where the lawn will thicken and prevent some weed growth as well? Im just starting a pre-emergent program this year so hopefully the weeds disappear over next year or two.
If you have already put down pre-emergent, it will be very hard for seeds to work. If you want to overseed, I'd recommend holding off on pre-emergent.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:06 am to RollDatRoll
quote:Have not yet, good advice thanks.
If you have already put down pre-emergent, it will be very hard for seeds to work. If you want to overseed, I'd recommend holding off on pre-emergent.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:15 am to The Mick
If you want to improve the grass it is much easier to worry less about the weeds.
Thelawnforum.com is a great place to go for guidance on programs to implement in your yard.
As a short summary, what I would say is that stop using the broadcast weed treatments and fertilizers. Stop using prevent type products. Research your grass and then lookup the website for your local ag school. They will have guidelines for when to fertilize and how much to fertilize for whatever grass you want to use. Follow that. They will have seeding guidelines, too.
For weeds hand pick as much as possible. WHere you can't hand pick, spot spray. Weed killers and preventers hold grass back from truly thriving. And when your grass is thick and healthy you won't need weed products anyway.
Thelawnforum.com is a great place to go for guidance on programs to implement in your yard.
As a short summary, what I would say is that stop using the broadcast weed treatments and fertilizers. Stop using prevent type products. Research your grass and then lookup the website for your local ag school. They will have guidelines for when to fertilize and how much to fertilize for whatever grass you want to use. Follow that. They will have seeding guidelines, too.
For weeds hand pick as much as possible. WHere you can't hand pick, spot spray. Weed killers and preventers hold grass back from truly thriving. And when your grass is thick and healthy you won't need weed products anyway.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/28/20 at 11:18 am to The Mick
Don’t weed and feed centipede. Little to no nitrogen during the spring is what I’ve learned. Rapid growth and greening will kill your centipede in the long run. For example this is my neighbors yard who has used weed and feed for 3 years next to mine. I used weed and feed last spring and learned my lesson the hard way.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 4:37 pm to tilco
What do you do for weeds?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 5:11 pm to The Mick
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What do you do for weeds?
Maybe ronk will chime in he and a few others have taught me a lot through this quarantine.
Personally I spot spray and hand pull. I’m gonna put out dimension for a pre emergent next february ish to help with crabgrass.
From what I’ve learned centipede thrives in souls with low nutrients which isn’t conducive to a lot of weed growth. So when you weed and feed you really are just feeding weeds.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 4/28/20 at 5:49 pm to The Mick
My first suggestion is don't use weed and feeds. You'll get a better lawn by separating the applications. Not necessarily different days but buying a specific fert and a specific herbicide. Centipede does not require a lot of fert and when you buy a bag Scott's product and it is 32% N and the application rate on the bag would have you putting down 1.25lbs of N 4 times a year.....you're gonna have a bad time. Site One carries a 24% N fert. I'd go with that one. As far the herbicide go with MSM. It is a gentler herbicide and is more forgiving but still controls a ton of weeds.
Pre ems are great or they are terrible. I do not like pre ems on lawns that are trying to recover. Most pre ems affect the root system of the plant (barricade, specticle, dimension, simazine) and the last thing you want to do is stress the root system of a recovering plant. Atrazine is a pre/post and works by means other than the root system. If your lawn is in good shape but you know you have poa problems in the winter and crabgrass problems in the summer then you can use the pre ems.
As far as the seed goes....sure. Go for it. You haven't put down a pre emergent yet so there are no issues there. I have not used centipede seed but the germination rate will probably be pretty low. Don't spend an arm and a leg on it.
Pre ems are great or they are terrible. I do not like pre ems on lawns that are trying to recover. Most pre ems affect the root system of the plant (barricade, specticle, dimension, simazine) and the last thing you want to do is stress the root system of a recovering plant. Atrazine is a pre/post and works by means other than the root system. If your lawn is in good shape but you know you have poa problems in the winter and crabgrass problems in the summer then you can use the pre ems.
As far as the seed goes....sure. Go for it. You haven't put down a pre emergent yet so there are no issues there. I have not used centipede seed but the germination rate will probably be pretty low. Don't spend an arm and a leg on it.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:09 pm to ronk
Thx ronk and tilco, appreciated!
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