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New electrical mystery in my house: outlet controlled by switch

Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:04 pm
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7232 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:04 pm
I'll try to keep it brief:

We are watching TV and we noticed our wireless subwoofer disconnected when we turned off our ceiling fan. We've had this for a few years now but we normally keep the lights on when watching TV downstairs and the ceiling fan on. Now that I've diagnosed this issue, I need a solution to keeping that outlet running at all times without interference.

When changing my switches out last month I did notice that there was an extra line of Romex coming to the wall. The wall has two switches:
1 for the outside front door lights
1 for the living room ceiling fan (and apparently for the outlet I have)

I thought this might have been just been old cables running to the ceiling fan for both separate light and fan controls but now I know it's running to my outlet, which I'm assuming might have been for a type of floor lamp used many years ago.

What would I need to do to have constant power running to the outlet? I can provide photos tomorrow once I determine which Romex controls the fan.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87090 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:10 pm to
Maybe not very helpful but you can break the metal plate between the 2 plugs with pliers (you'll have to do both sides) so only one of the 2 plugs responds to the on/off switch and the other receives constant power.

At least I had an outlet that worked that way; may not be relevant to what you're asking.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 9:11 pm
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7232 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:16 pm to
I need the outlet to have constant power, ceiling fan and front door lights to have power toggled between on and off without affecting the outlet.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29200 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:39 pm to
I’m very much not an electrician but can you isolate the wiring at the switch? Or is the outlet piggybacked into the the outdoor lighting?
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1890 posts
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:48 am to
Figure out which wire goes to power the outlet, and move it to the hot terminal of the switch.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1451 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:19 pm to
Forgive me if this sounds condescending, but if you watch a youtube video on how to wire an outlet controlled by a switch, you'll understand and will be able to work it backwards. It is typically simple, I've done it with the help of videos.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21515 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:53 am to
quote:

What would I need to do to have constant power running to the outlet?


Just tie them together in the switch box? Just bypass where the switch was so it’s always on, make it safe and label it. Replace old switch with this Blank from Amazon.
Posted by chrome1007
Toledo Bend
Member since Dec 2023
553 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:39 am to
Figure out which Romex is the supply. Which is ceiling fan. Which is receptacle. Hopefully the electrician ran wiring from switch box. If not, do you have a crawl space? You might have to put some junction boxes in and run electrical to receptacle.
Circuit tracers can help with this. DON’T FORGET TO TURN THE CIRCUIT BREAKER OFF WHEN CLEANING UP THE WIRING.
Hopefully the electrician left you enough tail in the box.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 7:46 am
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