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Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:09 am
I'm hoping this can be an ongoing thread where we share experiences and results of growing unconventional tropical and subtropical fruits in Louisiana. In my opinion, tropical fruits like mangos, guava, pineapple, etc. are just better and more interesting than deciduous fruits like plums and pears. But growing these things requires a bit of ingenuity and plenty of research. I would have started this hobby a long time ago if there had been a good repository of local knowledge and experience to learn from.
I do not have a huge greenhouse nor do I live in zone 10a down in Buras. I currently have the following tropical and subtropical plants under cultivation:
Key lime
Improved Coolidge feijoa
Unique feijoa
Oliver loquat
Lara Farms Honeyquat loquat
Kari starfruit
Silas Wood sapodilla
Makok sapodilla
Geffner atemoya
Emperor lychee
Muntingia calabura / Jamaican cherry
Ruby supreme guava
Mexican cream guava
Jalisco roja guava
Dwarf guava nana
Lemon cattley guava
Meyer lemon
Cara cara navel orange
Meiwa kumquat
Namwah banana
Dwarf namwah banana
Rajapuri banana
Dwarf Cavendish banana
Passiflora edulis passionfruit
Panama red passionfruit
Pickering mango
Suebelle white sapote
I have a ton of tropical ornamentals and figs too, but for now I'd like to focus on just the edible crops that are not deciduous and require some level of cold protection. I'm also including things like feijoa and loquat that are cold hardy but not common or require cold protection for the crops.
Many of these trees are new and in their first year, but I've already had good success with some of the older ones. Overall, the most important factors for me have been the following:
1) broad knowledge of container gardening (soil, fertilizer, water, root biology). Almost everything you read about soil requirements for containers is wrong. I look forward to talking about this in depth.
2) greenhouse - I am using a $200 Amazon plastic pop-up greenhouse on my back patio with lights and a space heater. On the coldest night of the year in Mandeville zone 9a, we hit 17F with 8 inches of snow. During this truly historic cold event, my cheapo greenhouse maintained a minimum temperature of 48F. Frankly, I found this to be astounding and it really made me decide to push harder on what might be possible.
3) grow room - my detached 8X20 brick walled garage storage room which is on the central HVAC has become a lighted and humidity controlled grow room for the most sensitive and juvenile plants during the coldest months of winter. This year, I needed this room for about 60 days. As of March 1st, it is now mostly empty except for very young or sensitive specimens. I could easily get by without this room but it is what allows for a truly year round growing season above 70F. Plants never really enter any dormancy period here.
4) lighting - I have some fairly decent grow lights set up that can provide enough intense light such that my trees are healthy, flushing growth, or even budding by the time we hit spring. I do not have anything nearing commercial level lighting. We are talking hundreds, not thousands of dollars.
I'll post a few pictures below in separate posts and am happy to share more upon request. Can't wait to see what some of you are experimenting with!
Great online nursuries I have used:
Everglades Farms
Lara Farms
Top Tropicals
Sow Exotic
One Green World
Etsy (research your seller)
Almost Eden (Louisiana based)
Willis Orchards
Four Winds (great for citrus)
Recommended reading:
Push the Zone - David the Good
Great practical guide to getting another zone or two from your climate. Focused on cold protection methods.
Florida's Best Fruiting Plants - Charles Boning
An excellent field guide to exotic tropical fruiting plants. Guava? Sapodilla? Barbados Cherry? Here's the guide that will tell you what you need to know about their biology, fruiting patterns, soil preferences, etc.
Palms Won't Grow Here and Other Myths - David Francko
Data focused masterpiece about what plants will actually survive in the real world, not what is listed on the back of the nursery card insert. If you live in Zone 8 or colder, this is a must read. For zone 9, this will arm you with the knowledge to turn your yard into zone 10 or even 11. Heavy focus on palms. You will understand why cold kills different plants and how to mitigate or avoid it.
Need proof of concept? Check out this amazing video by Theme Linh of Beaumont, TX (zone 9a). This woman has done all the hard work for you to figure out what can and cannot live in Zone 9. This video is must watch content for anyone even remotely interested in this topic:
Theme Linh's Beaumont Tropical Fruit Garden
I do not have a huge greenhouse nor do I live in zone 10a down in Buras. I currently have the following tropical and subtropical plants under cultivation:
Key lime
Improved Coolidge feijoa
Unique feijoa
Oliver loquat
Lara Farms Honeyquat loquat
Kari starfruit
Silas Wood sapodilla
Makok sapodilla
Geffner atemoya
Emperor lychee
Muntingia calabura / Jamaican cherry
Ruby supreme guava
Mexican cream guava
Jalisco roja guava
Dwarf guava nana
Lemon cattley guava
Meyer lemon
Cara cara navel orange
Meiwa kumquat
Namwah banana
Dwarf namwah banana
Rajapuri banana
Dwarf Cavendish banana
Passiflora edulis passionfruit
Panama red passionfruit
Pickering mango
Suebelle white sapote
I have a ton of tropical ornamentals and figs too, but for now I'd like to focus on just the edible crops that are not deciduous and require some level of cold protection. I'm also including things like feijoa and loquat that are cold hardy but not common or require cold protection for the crops.
Many of these trees are new and in their first year, but I've already had good success with some of the older ones. Overall, the most important factors for me have been the following:
1) broad knowledge of container gardening (soil, fertilizer, water, root biology). Almost everything you read about soil requirements for containers is wrong. I look forward to talking about this in depth.
2) greenhouse - I am using a $200 Amazon plastic pop-up greenhouse on my back patio with lights and a space heater. On the coldest night of the year in Mandeville zone 9a, we hit 17F with 8 inches of snow. During this truly historic cold event, my cheapo greenhouse maintained a minimum temperature of 48F. Frankly, I found this to be astounding and it really made me decide to push harder on what might be possible.
3) grow room - my detached 8X20 brick walled garage storage room which is on the central HVAC has become a lighted and humidity controlled grow room for the most sensitive and juvenile plants during the coldest months of winter. This year, I needed this room for about 60 days. As of March 1st, it is now mostly empty except for very young or sensitive specimens. I could easily get by without this room but it is what allows for a truly year round growing season above 70F. Plants never really enter any dormancy period here.
4) lighting - I have some fairly decent grow lights set up that can provide enough intense light such that my trees are healthy, flushing growth, or even budding by the time we hit spring. I do not have anything nearing commercial level lighting. We are talking hundreds, not thousands of dollars.
I'll post a few pictures below in separate posts and am happy to share more upon request. Can't wait to see what some of you are experimenting with!

Great online nursuries I have used:
Everglades Farms
Lara Farms
Top Tropicals
Sow Exotic
One Green World
Etsy (research your seller)
Almost Eden (Louisiana based)
Willis Orchards
Four Winds (great for citrus)
Recommended reading:
Push the Zone - David the Good
Great practical guide to getting another zone or two from your climate. Focused on cold protection methods.
Florida's Best Fruiting Plants - Charles Boning
An excellent field guide to exotic tropical fruiting plants. Guava? Sapodilla? Barbados Cherry? Here's the guide that will tell you what you need to know about their biology, fruiting patterns, soil preferences, etc.
Palms Won't Grow Here and Other Myths - David Francko
Data focused masterpiece about what plants will actually survive in the real world, not what is listed on the back of the nursery card insert. If you live in Zone 8 or colder, this is a must read. For zone 9, this will arm you with the knowledge to turn your yard into zone 10 or even 11. Heavy focus on palms. You will understand why cold kills different plants and how to mitigate or avoid it.
Need proof of concept? Check out this amazing video by Theme Linh of Beaumont, TX (zone 9a). This woman has done all the hard work for you to figure out what can and cannot live in Zone 9. This video is must watch content for anyone even remotely interested in this topic:
Theme Linh's Beaumont Tropical Fruit Garden
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:14 am to Tigerlaff

Pickering mango tree


Namwah / ice cream banana
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:18 am to Tigerlaff





Ruby supreme guava
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:26 am to Tigerlaff


Key lime
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:36 am to Tigerlaff



Lemon cattley guava
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:39 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:47 am to Tigerlaff

Emperor lychee (middle left)
Geffner atemoya (middle right)
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:52 am to Tigerlaff
Exciting!
I live in Baldwin County, Alabama (Zone 9A) and have a potted key lime tree that is healthy as an ox. I bring her inside the garage when we have that stretch or two of freezing nights.
We are considered "zone pushers" as we grow tropical plants in non- year round tropical climates.
I see your hibiscus. I wish they would stay small like a bush vs growing tall each summer.
I live in Baldwin County, Alabama (Zone 9A) and have a potted key lime tree that is healthy as an ox. I bring her inside the garage when we have that stretch or two of freezing nights.
We are considered "zone pushers" as we grow tropical plants in non- year round tropical climates.
I see your hibiscus. I wish they would stay small like a bush vs growing tall each summer.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:56 am to Fishwater
quote:
I see your hibiscus. I wish they would stay small like a bush vs growing tall each summer.
Cut em back above a node. They will branch better. You can prune pretty hard. My favorite is actually this in ground fiesta hibiscus:

What else are you pushing? Any fruit?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:12 pm to Tigerlaff
I am impressed that you are making some of these work. In particular the lychee tree. Those are even temperamental in my area, which is Tampa Bay Zone 10A. I’m growing both the Sweetheart and Hak Ip varieties.
My weakness has proven to be mango trees. I am currently growing…
Sweet Tart
Angie
CAC
Lemon Zest
Orange Sherbet
Nam Doc Mai #4
Mahachanok
Pickering
Bolt
Dusari
Kesar
Kathy/K-3
P-22
Pineapple Pleasure
Dwarf Hawaiian
Citrus is tricky here due to the proliferation of citrus greening/HLB. I’m growing Sugar Belles, UF Sun Limes and Giant Australian Finger Limes. All of which have shown tolerance/resistance.
I also have Persian Limes and Meyer Lemons which will almost assuredly become infected and die in the next 5 years unless a treatment is found.
My Namwah bananas produced for the first time last year. Two years in a pot and finally put them in the ground. They were much happier.
I’m currently growing MD2, Abacaxi and Sugarloaf pineapples. Just starting to get them established. The near freezing temps did a real number on them.
Other odds and ends are a Hawaiian Solo Papaya, Anna & Golden Dorsett Apples, Tropic Prince & Florida Grande Peaches, Brogdon & Simmonds Avocado.
My weakness has proven to be mango trees. I am currently growing…
Sweet Tart
Angie
CAC
Lemon Zest
Orange Sherbet
Nam Doc Mai #4
Mahachanok
Pickering
Bolt
Dusari
Kesar
Kathy/K-3
P-22
Pineapple Pleasure
Dwarf Hawaiian
Citrus is tricky here due to the proliferation of citrus greening/HLB. I’m growing Sugar Belles, UF Sun Limes and Giant Australian Finger Limes. All of which have shown tolerance/resistance.
I also have Persian Limes and Meyer Lemons which will almost assuredly become infected and die in the next 5 years unless a treatment is found.
My Namwah bananas produced for the first time last year. Two years in a pot and finally put them in the ground. They were much happier.
I’m currently growing MD2, Abacaxi and Sugarloaf pineapples. Just starting to get them established. The near freezing temps did a real number on them.
Other odds and ends are a Hawaiian Solo Papaya, Anna & Golden Dorsett Apples, Tropic Prince & Florida Grande Peaches, Brogdon & Simmonds Avocado.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:49 pm to wiltznucs
I am jealous of you, man. You've got a great environment for everything but the citrus. HLB is crazy in FL. Basically none of it here.
The lychee thing is extremely ambitious for me. Emperor is a dwarf variety and can be contained in a 25gal. I've got the soil dialed in at 4.5-5.5 pH and only water with rain or distilled. I'm not even attempting fruit yet so not withholding nitrogen at all. Trying to put on as much vegetative growth and scaffolding as I can for the first 2-3 years. The good news is I will have zero issue getting enough chill hours to flower.
The namwah / ice cream banana is such a beast. Takes cold, resists disease, tastes great. Can't wait to see how it compares with my new rajapuri. Cavendish types I find to be mostly not worth it. Too similar to grocery store bananas and they do not deal with cold well at all.
I am getting a 15gal Pickering mango at the end of this month from Montura Gardens down in Clewiston. Can't wait to get on the mango train. What's your favorite variety and any tips for Pickering?
The lychee thing is extremely ambitious for me. Emperor is a dwarf variety and can be contained in a 25gal. I've got the soil dialed in at 4.5-5.5 pH and only water with rain or distilled. I'm not even attempting fruit yet so not withholding nitrogen at all. Trying to put on as much vegetative growth and scaffolding as I can for the first 2-3 years. The good news is I will have zero issue getting enough chill hours to flower.

The namwah / ice cream banana is such a beast. Takes cold, resists disease, tastes great. Can't wait to see how it compares with my new rajapuri. Cavendish types I find to be mostly not worth it. Too similar to grocery store bananas and they do not deal with cold well at all.
I am getting a 15gal Pickering mango at the end of this month from Montura Gardens down in Clewiston. Can't wait to get on the mango train. What's your favorite variety and any tips for Pickering?
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:42 pm to Tigerlaff
Montura is great. Hani and crew are super. Have a few trees from them.
They do tend to show up with the bare minimum amount of soil in the pot. I like and have had good experiences with Sunshine Mix #4.
Pickering is super precocious. Some mango trees grow like glaciers. Pickering is not one of them. It gets after it. Pickering is without question the most productive and low maintenance mango tree I have. I throw a balanced 8-4-8 with micronutrients from Diamond-R at it each April, July and October. It’s got good disease resistance; but, I do manage pro-actively with Sulfur in winter. Powdery mildew can wreck mangos in no time flat. Copper Fungicide if trouble shows up and after temps get over 80 degrees routinely. Neem products do a good job keeping the insects away.
Pickering is a tough mango, in a good way. The best and most flavorful are those allowed to fully ripen on the tree. This means dealing with fruit drop sometimes. The good news is while many mangos are ruined after they drop; most Pickering seem to be okay.
Some people bang on Pickering for not being as complex as others. When picked before being fully ripe it tastes a bit plain like most store bought mangoes.
As for my favorite. I think everyone’s preferences are a bit different. My neighbor is from India. He loves them spicy, resiny and piney. I don’t mind those Indian profiles; but, it’s not my favorite.
I like the citrusy/Indochinese mangoes with a somewhat acidic, firm and fiberless profile. That’s why CAC, Orange Sherbet, Lemon Zest, Dusari and Bolt are in my little grovelet.
They do tend to show up with the bare minimum amount of soil in the pot. I like and have had good experiences with Sunshine Mix #4.
Pickering is super precocious. Some mango trees grow like glaciers. Pickering is not one of them. It gets after it. Pickering is without question the most productive and low maintenance mango tree I have. I throw a balanced 8-4-8 with micronutrients from Diamond-R at it each April, July and October. It’s got good disease resistance; but, I do manage pro-actively with Sulfur in winter. Powdery mildew can wreck mangos in no time flat. Copper Fungicide if trouble shows up and after temps get over 80 degrees routinely. Neem products do a good job keeping the insects away.
Pickering is a tough mango, in a good way. The best and most flavorful are those allowed to fully ripen on the tree. This means dealing with fruit drop sometimes. The good news is while many mangos are ruined after they drop; most Pickering seem to be okay.
Some people bang on Pickering for not being as complex as others. When picked before being fully ripe it tastes a bit plain like most store bought mangoes.
As for my favorite. I think everyone’s preferences are a bit different. My neighbor is from India. He loves them spicy, resiny and piney. I don’t mind those Indian profiles; but, it’s not my favorite.
I like the citrusy/Indochinese mangoes with a somewhat acidic, firm and fiberless profile. That’s why CAC, Orange Sherbet, Lemon Zest, Dusari and Bolt are in my little grovelet.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:24 pm to wiltznucs
Great stuff, thanks. I've already got my sulfur and copper ready. Everything you said confirms my research about Pickering. I'm actually glad it shows up with little soil because I'm a bit of a soil heretic. I'm in the Gary Matsuoka camp about organic material in your soil. Mangos in particular love sand and do not drink a ton of water so you really don't want the soil loaded with organic material to begin with. I will be bare rooting my Pickering and moving it into a 25gal container of Gary's Top Pot.
I have repotted all of my plants and trees into this primarily inorganic mix and it has made a world of difference. Stuff is very heavy, though!
I have repotted all of my plants and trees into this primarily inorganic mix and it has made a world of difference. Stuff is very heavy, though!
Posted on 3/3/25 at 7:57 am to Tigerlaff
I’ll have to check it out. I don’t have many in pots as most of mine go straight into the ground. I do have a few mango trees and some citrus in the 7g air pruning pots. The mangos in particular seem to have responded well there. Early on I’d buy a two 3-5g trees and based on which one grew best over a few months would eventually put the most productive tree in the ground. Then I’d sell or give away the other tree. The failure rate on the smaller trees is much higher so having an extra acted as a bit of an insurance policy. Later I just went all in and bought 15 and 25 gallon trees instead. Those are usually very durable and you can get fruit in the first year. If I had to do it all again; I’d of done nothing but 25’s.
If looking for other mango varieties which do well in pots and are dwarfish try Dwarf Hawaiian (similar flavor profile to Pickering), Sweet Tart, Angie or NDM4. Bolt is a relatively new cultivar and I’ve only had them for a bit over a year now. Based on what I’m seeing from one in a pot and another in the ground they appear to grow very compact and I think will likely be considered a dwarf or semi-dwarf once more data is collected.
I have a friend in Knoxville, TN who has a NDM4 in a 60 gallon pot that has to be 8-10 years old now. He gets a few dozen fruit each year.
If looking for other mango varieties which do well in pots and are dwarfish try Dwarf Hawaiian (similar flavor profile to Pickering), Sweet Tart, Angie or NDM4. Bolt is a relatively new cultivar and I’ve only had them for a bit over a year now. Based on what I’m seeing from one in a pot and another in the ground they appear to grow very compact and I think will likely be considered a dwarf or semi-dwarf once more data is collected.
I have a friend in Knoxville, TN who has a NDM4 in a 60 gallon pot that has to be 8-10 years old now. He gets a few dozen fruit each year.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:10 am to Tigerlaff
quote:
Improved Coolidge feijoa
Unique feijoa
Oliver loquat
Kari starfruit
Silas Wood sapodilla
Makok sapodilla
Geffner atemoya
Emperor lychee
Muntingia calabura / Jamaican cherry
Ruby supreme guava
Mexican cream guava
Lemon cattley guava
Passiflora edulis passionfruit
Ok you have me curious. If you could recommend 2-3 of these (best tasting and best fruit producers), what would you recommend.
I had the same popup greenhouse in Alaska and that thing was fantastic. Do you have a picture of the space heater you used?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:05 pm to wiltznucs
Sweet Tart is definitely on my radar. Can you post a picture of your Bolt? I'd love to follow along with you to see if it's dwarf habit sticks. Sometimes they grow out of it.
I have a 45gal pot ready for the Pickering once it outgrows the 25.
I have a few air pruning pots but let me suggest looking into MicroKote. It's a copper paint that kills root tips and forces lateral branching just like an air pruning pot. It has worked great for me and I don't let a single container of any size go without it now. Basically it eliminates root circling and makes best use of your soil volume.
Also noticed that my little Silas Wood sapodilla is putting on its first flower buds.

I have a 45gal pot ready for the Pickering once it outgrows the 25.
I have a few air pruning pots but let me suggest looking into MicroKote. It's a copper paint that kills root tips and forces lateral branching just like an air pruning pot. It has worked great for me and I don't let a single container of any size go without it now. Basically it eliminates root circling and makes best use of your soil volume.
Also noticed that my little Silas Wood sapodilla is putting on its first flower buds.

This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:10 pm to TimeOutdoors
quote:
Ok you have me curious. If you could recommend 2-3 of these (best tasting and best fruit producers), what would you recommend.
I had the same popup greenhouse in Alaska and that thing was fantastic. Do you have a picture of the space heater you used?
Where do you live?
Here are links to the space heater and automatic thermostat I use:
LINK
LINK
I also highly recommend the Yolink remote outdoor temperature and humidity monitors. For example, here is my current readout:

This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:45 pm to Tigerlaff
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Where do you live?
Between Alexandria and Natchitoches
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