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Input on Grill for Covered attached Patio
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:13 am
I have a full size grill out back on a concrete pad and a smoker, but lately I've been wanting to get a smaller grill for the covered patio, which is attached and under roof as the house. The patio is a long but kinda narrow rectangle, walls on the back and side and open to the front and other side. The purpose is for quicker, easier grilling of small quantity things, especially in bad weather.
Grill:
*Patio location - in cases of bad weather and also much closer than back and forth to the big grill. Tabletop is probably best type.
*Smaller - because 85% of the time I'm just wanting a quick grill of small stuff for 1-4 people.
*Excessive smoke is a concern since it's right by the back doors, but not a big deal if it can be directed away by a fan.
*Prefer some ability for charcoal and/or smoke, wood chips, pellets, etc.
I recently posted about Ninja Woodfire 8-in-1 Outdoor Oven and got great input from 98eagle, (despite him being an Auburn fan). I'm thinking that's a little too fancy or whatever but still keeping it in mind.
Looking at this so far:
Char-Griller Portable Charcoal Grill and Side Fire Box
*I'm not concerned with weight or portability.
These look good, but is propane so I'd have to modify or add something for charcoal/wood chips.
I really liked this thing but as a Hibachi open grill type I'm concerned about excessive smoke and also not getting as much smoke effect for cooking (sounds contradictory).
IronMaster Hibachi Grill
Propane is obviously much faster than charcoal, but using the chimney thing with a propane burner (that I use for wok and other cooking) I think it should light up pretty quickly.
Actually, as I've been typing this out, I'm starting to lean towards a propane model (quick and easy) and modify for charcoal/wood chips, but still pondering.
The kettle design seems like a waste of valuable and limited space, so I'm steering away from that for now (open to input as always).
This one is nice but way too big:
ALSO: I'm open to some kind of DIY design thing. As said above, I have a cooking standalone propane burner on the patio like below (but older), if there's anything I could incorporate with that.
Thanks!
Grill:
*Patio location - in cases of bad weather and also much closer than back and forth to the big grill. Tabletop is probably best type.
*Smaller - because 85% of the time I'm just wanting a quick grill of small stuff for 1-4 people.
*Excessive smoke is a concern since it's right by the back doors, but not a big deal if it can be directed away by a fan.
*Prefer some ability for charcoal and/or smoke, wood chips, pellets, etc.
I recently posted about Ninja Woodfire 8-in-1 Outdoor Oven and got great input from 98eagle, (despite him being an Auburn fan). I'm thinking that's a little too fancy or whatever but still keeping it in mind.
Looking at this so far:
Char-Griller Portable Charcoal Grill and Side Fire Box
*I'm not concerned with weight or portability.
These look good, but is propane so I'd have to modify or add something for charcoal/wood chips.
I really liked this thing but as a Hibachi open grill type I'm concerned about excessive smoke and also not getting as much smoke effect for cooking (sounds contradictory).
IronMaster Hibachi Grill
Propane is obviously much faster than charcoal, but using the chimney thing with a propane burner (that I use for wok and other cooking) I think it should light up pretty quickly.
Actually, as I've been typing this out, I'm starting to lean towards a propane model (quick and easy) and modify for charcoal/wood chips, but still pondering.
The kettle design seems like a waste of valuable and limited space, so I'm steering away from that for now (open to input as always).
This one is nice but way too big:
ALSO: I'm open to some kind of DIY design thing. As said above, I have a cooking standalone propane burner on the patio like below (but older), if there's anything I could incorporate with that.
Thanks!
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:18 am to Havoc
May not fit your space requirement but the i love my masterbuilt gravity grill. it's a charcoal grill that operates like a pellet grill. they have a small-ish one similar in size to a 3 burner propane grill. for low smoke/ease of use, a basic 2 burner weber propane grill would be tough to beat.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:26 pm to Havoc
Weber makes kettles that are 18" and 14" in diameter, FIY. If you are planning on a table of sorts for your burner you could incorporate a smaller kettle into the table/ cart.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:05 pm to Havoc
get a griddle
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:48 am to Havoc
Weber Q or a griddle
Posted on 12/2/23 at 4:57 pm to Havoc
Whatever you put under a cover is going to eventually discolor the ceiling in some way (soot, ash, heat, etc.).
Choose carefully.
Choose carefully.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:49 pm to Sidicous
Good point but the spot I’m looking at is right by the screen side so with a fan running it shouldn’t get too bad.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:31 pm to Havoc
Okay, there's another grill you should check out. I almost bought it before buying the Ninja Woodfire Grill.
The Fuego Professional F24C. It is a round propane grill that cooks evenly, is fairly lightweight and portable, and hides the regular size propane tank. It has a small 24" footprint. Here's a comparison video of it to the Weber Genesis II. There are a bunch of YouTube videos on it showing how people cook on it, etc.
The Fuego Element is a smaller version of this grill and was the original design from one of Apple's engineers. You can read feedback on both Fuego grills on Home Depot's site. You can buy them at Home Depot or at Fuego's website . I was going to buy one from Fuego directly as they had them for $100 on sale at the time, but then changed my mind to the smaller Ninja. The current sale price at Fuego is slightly better right now at 20% off.
The Fuego Professional F24C. It is a round propane grill that cooks evenly, is fairly lightweight and portable, and hides the regular size propane tank. It has a small 24" footprint. Here's a comparison video of it to the Weber Genesis II. There are a bunch of YouTube videos on it showing how people cook on it, etc.
The Fuego Element is a smaller version of this grill and was the original design from one of Apple's engineers. You can read feedback on both Fuego grills on Home Depot's site. You can buy them at Home Depot or at Fuego's website . I was going to buy one from Fuego directly as they had them for $100 on sale at the time, but then changed my mind to the smaller Ninja. The current sale price at Fuego is slightly better right now at 20% off.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:12 pm to Havoc
I have a traeger ranger that I keep under my covered part of my patio for what you described.. I keep a full size one for briskets and full size events..
I also have a grill like that stainless silver one in your pictures.. I keep it at a different house than my primary one.. I like it cause I can just set it on a metal table ( same thing I did with traeger ranger) … it is propane.. it has a hose and can connect to a full size propane tank.. I bought a half tank and use that instead because the full tank took up a lot of space ..
I also have a grill like that stainless silver one in your pictures.. I keep it at a different house than my primary one.. I like it cause I can just set it on a metal table ( same thing I did with traeger ranger) … it is propane.. it has a hose and can connect to a full size propane tank.. I bought a half tank and use that instead because the full tank took up a lot of space ..
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:16 pm to Thecoz
As op said smoke under cover was a concern.. my traeger does not put out a ridiculous amount of smoke and does a reasonably even smoke…. I have a patio tower fan on the other side and turn it on and set it to blow the smoke out.. the smoker is set by the edge of my cover..
Sometimes I run the ceiling fans also along with the tower fan.
Sometimes I run the ceiling fans also along with the tower fan.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:40 am to Havoc
Weber....whatever you can afford
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:27 am to Thecoz
Just to add on to the fan-pointed-at-smoker points, I've noticed that air movement across my smoker chimney causes a draw effect. Ive noticed it mess with my pellet grill's (computer) ability to control temps and smoke (more swing) than without the fan. So I don't point fan directly at the smoker, but above it and even at the ceiling.
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