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I need New Orleans soil on the north shore for my lawn. This sandy native stuff sucks

Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1294 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:29 pm
I have a centipede lawn that has deteriorated over the last few years and after multiple companies have come out, they’ve all arrived at a similar outcomes which is the soil doesn’t have a lot of nutrients in it and to too dress it with compost. The problem is the yard is huge so composting the whole yard is over 4k. Not up for it.

I can fertilize it but it’s really not the long term fix that changing the nature of the soil would be. What are my options for a top dressing of centipede that would help but not break the bank? Does native New Orleans soil get delivered across the lake? I could grow anything in my Metairie yard. Grass was thiccc. Any advice out there?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9357 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:00 pm to
Just be wary of torpedo grass being brought in depending on where you get the dirt from.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 4:23 am to
How about giving up on the idea of a sterile manicured lawn and going with native plants that actually thrive where you are?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38760 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 7:29 am to
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How about giving up on the idea of a sterile manicured lawn and going with native plants that actually thrive where you are?
preach
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:53 am to
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I need New Orleans soil on the north shore for my lawn.
"New Orleans soil" is know as some of the worst stuff ever...

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I can fertilize it but it’s really not the long term fix that changing the nature of the soil would be
not sure if you know how this works? any "soil you bring in will be sucked of its nutrients rather quick.

Whats your issue? to much water? too little? not enough sun? too much thatch?
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38760 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:32 pm to
soils on the northshore are very different from the soils on the southshore. additionally, if the OP's house is newish, theres probably a lot of compacted structural fill to deal with
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1294 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:36 pm to
Yup. Core Aerating it again tomorrow and then hoping to do my first fertilizer. The centipede is just weak and leggy.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13476 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:56 pm to


Golf courses are grown on sand. Fertile soil is not normally the root cause. Sun, water, and npk.

Also centipede is tough. You can do everything right and it will still crap out on you. My advice is to steer clear of fertilizers with muriate of potash as the potassium source. And limit your nitrogen to no more than 2lbs per 1k a year and no more than 1/2lb of n per 1 k in an application. Mow frequently. Every five days or so at 1-2 inches depending on your yard and scalping potential.

Usually when folks have a centipede yard that was thiccc and the best in the neighbor hood they were bombing it out with Scott’s southern lawn food (or something comparable ) for a few years.

Finally if you have full sun switch to Bermuda. 4K sq ft is easily doable for a Reno.
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1294 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:10 pm to
I have about 25,000 sqft. Been thinking of switching to Bermuda but i definitely don’t like the common Bermuda. It’s knotty and I’m not sure why it would bother me to have a different lawn other than centipede or zoysia but since those are the only ones in my neighborhood, I’d rather stick with those
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:42 am to
In Mandeville. My St Augustine lawn grows fine as long as there's sun hitting it. A couple patchy spots due to constant shade, but generally no problem. I like the fact that it grows slower up here tbh. My Metairie lawn was a constant battle over the summer. Grew too fast.
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
728 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:21 pm to
There’s lots of things you can do to improve your soil. Peat moss, top soil, Humic acid, sea kelp, micronutrients. Make an account at site one and grab a few bags of Lesco Carbon Pro G. Just know that it takes years so don’t expect immediate results.
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1294 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:40 pm to
I like site one too - the guys over there are real helpful and they have good products. I will look into what you’re saying. I don’t expect immediate results but I’m looking for progress
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1648 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:21 pm to
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The problem is the yard is huge so composting the whole yard is over 4k. Not up for it.



I top dress my yard each year. Costs me 130 bucks and my yard isn't tiny....subdivision, but not tiny. 4k seems so high.
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