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Flower bed/garden weed killer of choice?

Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:33 pm
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:33 pm
I know people typically mention/use roundup in their beds and pesky areas but is there a board recommended alternative that maybe is used commercially or something that is cheaper or more effective? Should I just go with the regular roundup from the store?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:11 pm to
I do a Spectracide and Muratic Acid irish carbomb type thing.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6911 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:19 pm to
Check out snapshot
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1953 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:39 am to
The lady at old time farm supply recommended Green Light Amaze. I’ve had my flower beds tilled up with fresh garden soil for a little more than a week and nothing started growing yet.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:02 am to
Will check out both snapshot and amaze to put down for prolonged prevention. What about for spot spraying?
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1953 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:19 am to
I just use roundup, I buy the compare n save brand of glyphosate (same as roundup) because it is cheaper.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:21 am to
Also, do they sell any other size besides a 50 lb. bag for $125?
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:16 am to
Eraser and 24D
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5598 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:42 am to
You can also use Dimension or Prodiamine, that’s frequently discussed on this board as a lawn pre-emergents, in landscape beds - and they labeled for that use, but they not labeled for use in vegetable beds. Of course can’t use them if anything you might plant in the bed is a seed.

As a post-emergent I also use glyphosate, generic “Roundup”, usually the Hi-Yield Killzall brand is readily available in various size containers at a decent price. Usually oxalis and sedges I need to control with non-selective post-emergents.

Of course a good layer of mulch, 3 inches, helps with weed suppression.
Posted by Special K
Member since Jun 2011
1143 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 8:54 am to
Do you have a recommendation for what type of mulch to use?

Is rubber mulch terrible? The idea of not having to replace it each year is tempting
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5598 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Do you have a recommendation for what type of mulch to use? Is rubber mulch terrible? The idea of not having to replace it each year is tempting

Well, any mulch you choose is better than no mulch at all whether it be rubber mulch, wood chips, pine straw, leaves, etc.

Personally, I like and use pine straw in my front yard with a street view landscape beds, effective, aesthetic (IMO), and works well with the azaleas and camellias I have there as the pine straw creates acidity as it breaks down (but then all organic mulches do that) but it needs a fresh application annually. Many consumer horticultural extension agents seem to favor pine straw as well. I also like that its easy to move aside if you want to add another plant or flowers and move back in place afterwards.

In my backyard, which is my view only, my friends save for me bags of live oak leaves and I use that as mulch. Live oak leaves tend to stay in place without having to chop them up. I probably save about $150 using free leaves over pine straw bales which of course I then use to buy more plants, etc.

I’ve not used the rubber mulch, I’m sure it works, but if there any down side others will have to comment on. In the past I used wood chip mulch, and still do use it for container plants, but for landscape beds I always found myself coming back to pine straw.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 10:24 am to
I use prodiamine for my lawn so I may just use that. It is probably to late to treat the landscape beds with it so I will just tackle it with a postemergent until I apply premergent on the lawn again. Would you say prodiamine is as effective as like snapshot?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5598 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I use prodiamine for my lawn so I may just use that. It is probably to late to treat the landscape beds with it so I will just tackle it with a postemergent until I apply premergent on the lawn again. Would you say prodiamine is as effective as like snapshot?

ronk could likely answer that better than me. I know the active ingredient in Snapshot is a very good one used widely in the ornamental landscape trade, and I suspect it has a broader spectrum of weed control. I’ve not personally used it.

If you feel comfortable with iDing the weeds in your beds, check the labels or the Prodiamine and Snapshot, they will list the weeds they control. Proper mulching will indeed help with most weeds, except nutsedge (I swear that stuff will penetrate concrete) and oxalis, and little mulching in practiced landscape nursery trade since plants are not permanent fixtures, they are grown to be sold, so they probably need to use broader spectrum pre-emergents (that’s speculation on my part, without checking with an expert).
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 1:20 pm to
Ronk, thoughts on snapshot v. using Prodiamine which I already have?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6911 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:46 pm to
Snapshot is going to be better. It is specifically made for bed weed control. I'm going to lie and say that I knew these numbers off the top of my head but snapshot control over 120 weeds and is safe for over 600 ornamentals.

You just have to weigh pros and cons. Something you already have vs something that comes in one size and ain't cheap.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1535 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:02 pm to
Is it to late to apply snapshot/prodiamine/preen/etc. to the beds?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6911 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:24 pm to
Snapshot can be applied at any time. Prodiamine can still be applied but you've likely missed the window on some of the weeds that it will control. Preen is one of the two active ingredients in Snapshot. So it works about the same but not quite.
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