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First time installing tile
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:58 pm
Renovating laundry room...went from me suggesting i install a couple of cabinets for storage to renovating everything.
So planning to try to install tile myself. I have a concrete slab. Previous tile was installed with an uncoupling membrane. After ripping everything up, the floor is pretty smooth, but I assume I need to grind away the previous thinset down to concrete again, before laying down a new uncoupling membrane? Before I take the angle grinder to it, wanted to make sure there wasn't either another way or making sure I can't just apply the thinset/uncoupling membrane to what's already there.
So planning to try to install tile myself. I have a concrete slab. Previous tile was installed with an uncoupling membrane. After ripping everything up, the floor is pretty smooth, but I assume I need to grind away the previous thinset down to concrete again, before laying down a new uncoupling membrane? Before I take the angle grinder to it, wanted to make sure there wasn't either another way or making sure I can't just apply the thinset/uncoupling membrane to what's already there.


Posted on 8/10/24 at 9:50 pm to Puffoluffagus
Prob no need to uncouple if there isn’t already signs of foundation cracking there. Just my opinion.
ETA we only decoupled over large cracks. 5 years later everything perfect.
ETA we only decoupled over large cracks. 5 years later everything perfect.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:48 pm to Puffoluffagus
If it makes you feel better, Floor & Decor sells a high quality thinset that cures overnight that goes on top of anything (after you scrape up the thinset leftovers you have now)
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:06 am to Puffoluffagus
Get a floor scraper and start scraping. Go over everything and get it as smooth as you can (within reason) and use a quality thin set and proceed. Don’t think I’d bother with an uncoupling membrane. Small area, laundry room, not a lot of downside
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:20 am to 9rocket
Cool thanks everyone.
Yeah I wasn't orginially planning on using a membrane, I was surprised to see that they had used one.
In any case, will get it all scraped up today and start tiling in the next couple of weekends
Yeah I wasn't orginially planning on using a membrane, I was surprised to see that they had used one.
In any case, will get it all scraped up today and start tiling in the next couple of weekends
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:29 pm to Puffoluffagus
Scrape it good, then clean it good to get all the bits of thin set up.
Then measure the room so you can find where to start your tiles and pop a couple lines like the crosshairs in a rifle scope and start in the middle of the room laying the tiles. Let that set overnight and do the cutting, fitting and installing of the edge tiles the next day.
Then wait a day and do all the grouting to finish off the floor. Then come back and install the shoe moulding around the room that you removed. Total time should be no more than a days worth of work, but spread out over at least 3 days due to letting things set overnight.
Edited: When you measure the room the objective is to find a starting point that will have even tiles around the edges of the room that are the ones that need to be cut to fit. You don't want one side of the room with 10 inches of tile next to the wall and only 2 inches on the opposite wall.
Also, when measuring keep in mind the spacing between tiles in the equation. With such a small room you can get your rough starting point and lay some tiles dry with the spacers to see how they will fall as far as size of the border.
I would do my best to start with a full tile going through the doorway into the washroom and let the back wall fall where it may since it will be under the machines according to your pic in the OP.
Then measure the room so you can find where to start your tiles and pop a couple lines like the crosshairs in a rifle scope and start in the middle of the room laying the tiles. Let that set overnight and do the cutting, fitting and installing of the edge tiles the next day.
Then wait a day and do all the grouting to finish off the floor. Then come back and install the shoe moulding around the room that you removed. Total time should be no more than a days worth of work, but spread out over at least 3 days due to letting things set overnight.
Edited: When you measure the room the objective is to find a starting point that will have even tiles around the edges of the room that are the ones that need to be cut to fit. You don't want one side of the room with 10 inches of tile next to the wall and only 2 inches on the opposite wall.
Also, when measuring keep in mind the spacing between tiles in the equation. With such a small room you can get your rough starting point and lay some tiles dry with the spacers to see how they will fall as far as size of the border.
I would do my best to start with a full tile going through the doorway into the washroom and let the back wall fall where it may since it will be under the machines according to your pic in the OP.
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:36 pm to Puffoluffagus
You could possibly go over with a small amount of leveler, then start fresh.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 5:00 pm to Puffoluffagus
Angle grinder with a diamond cup works really well. Invest in the dust shield that attaches to your shop vac. I lightly misted the floor as I went to keep the dust down. Ugly job any way you look at it.
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