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Bug spray on cabbage collards, etc?

Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28411 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:30 am
For spraying plants that are somewhat hydrophobic, meaning the liquid spray just runs right off the leaves like when you spray collards.

Do you add a little dish soap to the sprayer to help it stick?

I've been doing my garden for a few years now, and believe it or not, this was the first year I had to spray. Well it was my first year planting cabbage, broccoli and collards.

I had some seven in the garage so I used that on the garden to to grubs on my leaves.. the seven spray just would not stick to the leaves.

Thanks.

None of the vegetables grew very well. I think I shouldn't be trying to grow those in the summer right? I couldn't get the broccoli to grow in clumps... I watched a video, tried trimming them, but still didn't do right. Rain and drought may have affected them, not sure.

Now is the time to plant some new collards and cabbage?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
18030 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 9:56 am to
I must have been lucky when it comes to cabbage, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, collards and the like since I've never had any issue with bugs on those type plants.

Most I've had to deal with when it comes to fall/winter type crops is Swiss Chard that seem to have a magnet for worms that love to eat the plants-----at least while temperatures are still fairly mild. Once it got cold, they disappeared.

As for what to use, have you thought about Seven Dust???
Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
919 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 10:20 am to
You can always try putting a bunch of ladybugs and mantis's in the garden. They'll typically manage any bug issues you have.

You can find live ones at some home/garden stores or you can buy them online. You can find mantis eggs online too.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15344 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 11:14 am to
Caterpillars are going to be your biggest concern with Cole Crops. Bacillus Thuringiensis works well for those. You will need to use a surfactant to get it to “stick” to the plants. I use Dr Bronners Castile Soap, but a little bit of Dawn is also ok. Or you could use a non-ionic surfactant like Hi Yield Spreader Sticker.

quote:

I think I shouldn't be trying to grow those in the summer right?


They are considered a fall/winter crop. They usually bolt quickly in the summer.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
18030 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Now is the time to plant some new collards and cabbage?


Kind of depends on what growing zone you are in. If in the N.O. area, it is considered Zone 9 and all fall/winter crops were put in the ground in late September through October.

With our mild winters, many of them will produce into the spring months and over-winter just fine.

Most of the fall/winter crops produce better quality and tasting product when it is cool/cold.

Broccoli is one of my favorites since you can harvest the main head that comes in first and then there's weeks and weeks of harvesting individual side shoots that grow on the plant. Collards and most other greens can be harvested up till the late spring when it gets too hot for them to grow well.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28411 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 4:39 pm to
Central NC. Zone 8.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:00 pm to
Just spray once per week. Your are over thinking it. The spray washes off during rains, and from breaking down through sunlight. Buy permethrin 13.3, mix 2 tsp per gal of water and spray everything once a week.

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This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16822 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:41 pm to
I'm going to try Neem oil.

I planted some and they have little tiny catepillars all over them

Friggin jerks.
Posted by PerplenGold
TX
Member since Nov 2021
1893 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:40 am to
Neem is good but spray regularly. It won’t kill most bugs like a poison would but it’s effective over time. Kinda like psychological warfare.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
18030 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:15 am to
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Central NC. Zone 8.



If you are uncertain about what to plant, and when, just look up the planting guide for your Zone 8 climate.

It should include a list of planting times to get stuff in the ground and when to start seeds in pots if you go that route.
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