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Any flooring experts?

Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:20 pm
Posted by BellYeah
Member since Aug 2021
91 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:20 pm
I am wanting to put vinyl tile down in my lobby at work. It presently has ceramic tile that can’t be disturbed due to asbestos. Can the peel & stick vinyl be placed on the existing tiles? Or are there other options I should consider?
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3555 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:41 pm to
That would work. Floating LVP would work also.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23949 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 2:52 pm to
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Can the peel & stick vinyl be placed on the existing tiles?
You'd probably have to put floor leveler over the ceramic for the vinyl adhesive to get a good stick and so you don't have uneven spots show through where the grout lines are underneath.

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Or are there other options I should consider?
Laminate. Floating installation and its pretty forgiving on what's underneath it, so you should be able to go straight on top of the ceramic without any real additional prep needed.
Posted by BellYeah
Member since Aug 2021
91 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:00 pm to
Appreciate the advice. Floating lvp will be perfect.
Posted by ArkBengal
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2004
2075 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:48 pm to
Question - looking at LVP for kitchen. Couple of people I know have put this down and after a while gaps show up between the planks. Can knock it back in place so I assume from foot traffic shifting planks due to expansion gaps along walls. Any good way to prevent this ?
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3555 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:59 pm to
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Question - looking at LVP for kitchen. Couple of people I know have put this down and after a while gaps show up between the planks. Can knock it back in place so I assume from foot traffic shifting planks due to expansion gaps along walls. Any good way to prevent this ?
Installation is key. You have to leave expansion room on the edges instead of butting it up against something. Also, some LVP brands state that the "run" can only be so long before you need to break it up with transition strips. Some can essentially be laid throughout the house without that worry. When laying the flooring, make sure you tap it in enough so you get the tongue and groove locked into place.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10622 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:07 pm to
How is asbestos an issue with a ceramic tile floor?
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3555 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:19 pm to
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How is asbestos an issue with a ceramic tile floor?

We had that issue with flooring at my old work. It wasn't the tile itself, but the mastic underneath. We had 2 options. Either we hired a company to remediate the flooring or we laid flooring right on top. We chose to have a company remove the asbestos material.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1451 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:37 pm to
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When laying the flooring, make sure you tap it in enough so you get the tongue and groove locked into place.





This is the best answer. Perimeter gaps are also required, but probably not the problem here, with gaps occurring in the field. You would see the floor “tent” if no perimeter expansion joint exists.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10930 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 6:03 am to

Question - looking at LVP for kitchen. Couple of people I know have put this down and after a while gaps show up between the planks. Can knock it back in place so I assume from foot traffic shifting planks due to expansion gaps along walls. Any good way to prevent this ?
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Most take it straight out of the box and put it down. Gotta let it sit out a few days before installing.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34034 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 7:02 am to
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Most take it straight out of the box and put it down. Gotta let it sit out a few days before installing.
This is a big one.

Just buy the material and set it in the room for 48 hrs. It'll do quite a bit if contracting and expanding in that time frame and will minimize its movement once it's installed.

It's huge in southern states with high humidity contents.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10622 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:02 pm to
We had that issue with flooring at my old work. It wasn't the tile itself, but the mastic underneath. We had 2 options. Either we hired a company to remediate the flooring or we laid flooring right on top. We chose to have a company remove the asbestos material.

I understand asbestos in vinyl tiles and adhesives for vinyl tile. But generally, the mastic used for ceramic tiles is for wall installations and floor tiles are usually installed with thinset that doesn’t contain asbestos.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1451 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:49 pm to
You are correct. Sometimes a tile floor is laid over a floor that contains asbestos, or an adhesive called cutback may have been used to install that floor. An installer might not want to open that can of worms by disturbing it.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3555 posts
Posted on 4/7/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Sometimes a tile floor is laid over a floor that contains asbestos, or an adhesive called cutback may have been used to install that floor. An installer might not want to open that can of worms by disturbing it.
that was our situation.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28569 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 3:08 pm to
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It's huge in southern states with high humidity contents.


The temperature difference is much more of an issue than humidity with LVP which is basically not affected by humidity. Solid wood flooring is the most important to get fully acclimated to humidity.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22477 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Most take it straight out of the box and put it down. Gotta let it sit out a few days before installing.


I have little to no experience with this but I dont see how this is an issue with LVP. It’s basically plastic. With wood floors I understand. But idk.

OP, is your lobby area high traffic? A lot of Lvp and the like are rated for commercial grade but a lot of that is BS. If you just have a small lobby for an office with really no customers that’s probably fine, but something where people are going all of the time like a dental office, lawyer, etc I wouldn’t do LVP floated over tile personally. Those truly high traffic areas really get beat to hell and LVP does scratch from things like dirt on peoples shoes. Plus floating it putting it over tile is not the perfect subfloor, it will be unlevel in many areas. That’s where you get the separation from it lifting and contracting constantly.

I had an elevator waiting area in a busy parking garage that they put ‘commercial’ LVP and it lasted less than a month before it was beat up. The company refunded the installer and they put tile back down.

It’s great in some settings, just be careful.
This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 3:32 pm
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