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Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:21 am to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:21 am to
they are getting ready to swarm with a new queen. It’s natures way

mine swarm about every 2 years. The original hive will be back to full strength after a summer
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 7:25 am to
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Why do you think you're about to lose your hive?


Bees often “beard” on the outside of the hive for one of two reasons. Either it’s too hot in the hive and they’re emptying the brood chamber and hanging out outside in order to provide better ventilation inside, or they’re preparing to swarm and are outside waiting on the queen to leave the hive so they can follow her.

It’s been warmer lately. But I do not think it has been hot enough for the former. I’ll have to open the hive and see. I meant to go out this morning and look before work but I was running a bit late. If it’s the internal temp, they’ll go back in the hive at night when temps cool down. Last time they swarmed on me they stayed outside all night and all day.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 11:50 am to
I'd do what could to delay the swarm if that's what it is. It's pretty early for a split even if it's been warm. Pretty risky to do a walkaway split since there probably aren't very many viable drones out there. Plus your remaining population can't be very high since the queen has only had one round of laying (maybe 2 if she started in early January).

No queens for purchase yet, unless you order from Hawaii.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:01 pm to
I put a Corbaci and a Shishito pepper plant in a couple of big pots I have in the back yard. Checked them this morning and a squirrel had buried both of them. I let my dog know if this happens again she will fired from guard duty.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:21 pm to
I definitely need to open them up and see what's going on. It got into the 80's yesterday, so maybe it did get a little warm in the brood chamber. I've been thinking about it and I still have the smallest entrance reducer on, plus the screened bottom is closed up, and I have the inner lid still in winter mode. So I guess it's possible. Needless to say, I'm past due on an inspection.

I usually take long range forecasts with a grain of salt. But I figured I'd mention that Meteorologist Zack Fradella posted on Facebook yesterday "winter isn't over yet and the cold will return." He went into no further detail. But if he's talking about the cooler weather I'm seeing in the forecast for next weekend, then I'm not too concerned. Mid to upper 40's for my location. But, it's something to keep in mind. Not out of the potential frost danger yet.
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:14 pm to
I moved all my colonies from my camp 60 miles away, to 6 miles from my house the past 2 days. Just got done checking them out. I have lots of drones already walking comb, lots of drone brood, swarm cups on frame bottoms. We may get a cold snap, but the bees are showing me activity I normally don’t see till March. Redbuds are already blooming and some oaks (Brandon, MS). I’ll start grafting for queens next week for splits or I’ll have a lot of bees in the trees. Here’s to a great honey flow





Perfect frame. Brood surrounded by a band of pollen and honey. Tons of pollen has been coming in.

Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 2:26 pm to
That’s a beautiful frame!

Mine appear to be bringing in a ton of pollen as well. That’s just from the little I’ve observed of the activity at the front entrance.
Posted by Mr Sausage
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:39 pm to
I am tempted to plant some green beans in an effort to have fresh green beans for Easter weekend.
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 6:15 pm to
Looks like I picked the perfect week to forget about leaving seedlings outside. It’s been cloudy all week so they all survived except the one that fell over.

Did another inspection this weekend. Lots of drone brood and decent amount of girls. No queen cups yet.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:14 am to


No bearding this morning. So they may just be getting warm in the afternoon. Gonna open them up this afternoon and see what’s up.
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:03 am to
Yeah with a reducer on and inner cover flipped I could see it getting warm in there. I took my reducer off last weekend and started an Apiguard treatment on Tuesday. They have been hanging out of the hive a bit more since then. I don't think they appreciate the thymol.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get them to completely build out the bottom box. They favor the west side. Probably because the box sits between a fence and the house and the fence blocks the morning sun so it tends to be warmer on the west side. I guess I should shift the brood frames all the way to the east side and empty frames to the west making them more likely to draw out those couple that are left?
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:37 am to
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I don't think they appreciate the thymol.


Yeah that stuff will run them out the yard sometimes. I used it back in August when temps were pretty high, but divided into 3 treatments 30 ml each. I like it though. Really drops the mites.

quote:

I guess I should shift the brood frames all the way to the east side and empty frames to the west making them more likely to draw out those couple that are left?


I like to center the nest in the box. Move honey frames away from brood and place foundation frames. When they start drawing one side, flip it around. I rub wax on my foundations. Also I feed 1:1 syrup when trying to draw foundation.

I dream of a day of having an abundance of drawn comb



Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 10:15 am to
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I like it though. Really drops the mites.


Yeah, I'm not sure if it was needed but wanted to be safe. Last mite count I did was in January and less than 1%. I'd like them as strong as possible this spring since I plan on making at least 1 split and would like to harvest some honey this year. I got my hive late May last year and just let them do their thing year 1.

quote:

I like to center the nest in the box.


They were originally centered and worked their way west as the summer went on. I guess I could always re-center and throw a food frame on the west end with an empty in between like you said and swap around as needed.

quote:

I rub wax on my foundations.


I did this in the fall as well. Seemed to work just fine. Just keep the bur comb I scrape off and rub it on new foundation like a crayon. I definitely wouldn't do it if I had a lot of frames but it is easier than melting for me right now.
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 1:03 pm to
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would like to harvest some honey this year


Considering you’re taking the mites seriously, I don’t see making honey being a problem for you as long as you keep them from the trees.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:23 pm to
Fradella finally posted his long range weather outlook. When he said winter isn’t through yet, it looks like he was referring to mid March. It’s based on LRC modeling. I had to look that up. Lezak Recurring Cycle. Apparently some meteorologists swear by it and some don’t buy it. But he said “wait until after winters last chance to plant.” So that’s something to keep an eye on. For those unfamiliar with Zack Fradella, he’s at Fox 8 in New Orleans.


For me, when that week comes closer I’ll be really eyeing the forecast. Cause these darn things will need to go in the ground ASAP. I just got finished putting the rest of the tomatoes into larger pots.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by TunaTigers
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 5:00 pm to
I went ahead and put my tomatoes and cucumbers in the ground. Hopefully we dont get a frost or freeze on the south shore.

Pepper plants are still small so holding off a bit longer.

Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 6:00 pm to
If we do, just be prepared to cover them.

I did a bunch of work in the garden today. I sweat my arse off. It was hot. Hard to imagine we’d get more winter weather after that.

Got the cattle panel up, the tomato stakes and cages up, and I cleaned up all the rows.


Last weekend I fertilized the blueberries and blackberries. The blackberries are full of flowers and leafing out. Even have some new canes starting to shoot up.


The blueberries are finally starting to leaf out. They also have quite a few flowers. These were just planted in the fall. I have a Premier, Climax, and Tifblue. My awesome wife (no pics) is going to make me some tags with her laser to put on the side of the box to label which variety is which.



Strawberries are doing great. Full of flowers and berries.


I went ahead and sowed some zucchini and yellow straightneck squash seeds. Also got some in pots under the light in the garage along with some sunflowers.

ETA: I’m sad to report that I did not get around to opening up the beehive. Seems like I had a million things to do today. Good news is I got just about everything but that done. Tomorrow I have no excuses. Definitely going to open them up. But I did open up the bottom screen to allow some air flow and they haven’t bearded all day.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 6:02 pm
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:35 pm to
I opened up the hives today. They looked great. Nice brood patterns in the upper boxes. I opened the side of the broodnest and added another box on each. They're bringing in tons of pollen, and they're all over the blackberry/dewberry blossoms. I kindly but sternly told them not to swarm, so I'm sure they'll listen.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 9:56 pm to
The LRC has been pretty good for watching trends in the long range models to see what is fantasy and what to watch closer. If it calls for a cold blast in March, I’m paying attention.

There is some discrepancy between those that follow on the length of this year’s cycle though. Some, like Fradella, say it’s around 30 days. Others argue it’s 60-ish.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/26/23 at 5:35 am to
Pillage, you remind me of my Dad. He grew a huge garden every year and had bees too. Like you, he grew EVERYTHING. I will never forget his epic harvests. Your kids will remember it too, and hopefully, they will do the same things for their kids.

I have been planting and raking, and have been sweating as well. I long for the long, cool Spring we had last year.
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