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Posted on 3/15/19 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 1:53 pm to
Could be wind damage. Could be sun damage. Could be a nutrient imbalance. Could be viral, bacterial, or fungal.

This is the one thing that drives me crazy about gardening. Diagnosing foliage issues.

ETA: Almost forgot. Could be insect damage.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 1:59 pm
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 2:09 pm to
I'm ruling out nutrient issues just because it's new soil and it's amended really well. Plants were all fine until the wind, and I've got three plants that were behind a wall during all the wind who show no signs of the problem, which led me to believe it was because of the wind. It's pretty localized so I'm gonna clip the affected leaves and see if it progresses.

Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 2:17 pm to
I hope it isn't some fungal issues, but it is kind of early for that to happen is my experience. Usually when it warms up is when fungal and bacterial issues show up.

I have pretty much given up on tomatoes. When I first started my back yard garden over 20 years ago I had beautiful tomatoes, but as time passed I experienced more and more issues with fungal and bacterial problems. I only plant a few tomato plants each spring now and they are iffy at best.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 3:00 pm to


This is relevant
Posted by gumbo2176
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

This is relevant



So true. Weather this fall and so far this year has been wetter than normal. Takes days for my garden to dry out enough to get into it and just when it look like it's time to pull rows, it rains again.

I'm about 2 weeks behind last year at this time.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

I just thought it would be cool for my kids to see grow.


One of the quickest seed to harvest vegetables are radishes. The only problem with that is, most kids won't even want to eat them, so it's a Catch-22.

I grew corn last year for the first time and they did pretty good. The most you can expect from each plant is 2 ears and more than likely just one per plant. The only issue I had was the wind and how shallow rooted they are. I straightened them out and hilled more soil up the stalks to stabilize them.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 5:10 pm to
Of its an active crossing you can probably go grab it without worry.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:05 pm to
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Of its an active crossing you can probably go grab it without worry.


As far as I can tell, it's like a private thing between the Levee Board and the stable owner. No real road to speak of just a worn path from the stables to the batture, but no official road.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:39 pm to
Just get permission from stable then
Posted by Cajunate
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 7:22 am to
quote:

And before the police horse stables had to change their dumping of horse stall waste, I was getting all the stable waste from them I needed for my compost pile.

Use to cart it to the back of the property and just dump it but now they have to dump it in one of those towaway containers and every bit of trash goes in there now. So it's too hard to pick through.


There's a horse stable on the levee of the Mississippi River where Leake Ave, Oak St. and River Rd. meet. I know they were putting horse manure in a dumpster. I bet if you went and asked they'd let you help yourself to all the crap you want. God knows New Orleans is full of enough shite for everyone. Lol........
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 7:50 am to
Will finish planting today. I looked yesterday and already have a tomato on my Early Girl.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:09 am to
Any suggestions on when to add lime to container tomato and bell pepper?

I planted them yesterday with miracle gro organic mix and added pelleted fertilizer before putting them in hole.

Should I add lime now to prevent end blossom rot down the road?
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12123 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:20 pm to
If you are going to add calcium, don't add lime. It can change the soil ph, but from everything I read gypsum doesn't. Go buy a bag at Lowe's or HD for $6 and you are set. You can add a handful under the roots and occasional mix some with water to feed the plants as they produce fruit.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

don't add lime. It can change the soil ph


If I remember right, tomatoes can’t utilize calcium in alkaline soil. Definitely would be wary of that.

Random thought: It seems most people don’t like the smell of neem oil. I, however, really like it.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12123 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 4:45 pm to
Pillage you are right, but most soils will be fine for toms. You can do a cheap soil test for pH as well. I like the smell of neem as well. That and soapy water in a spray bottle are your friends against pests
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 8:47 am to
I've concluded that the photos I posted earlier were just wind damage, thankfully. The affected leaves on those plants just kinda shriveled up and fell off. No other signs of effects on the rest of the plants.

Also, update re: bleach spray. I had two plants that had some type of fungal or bacterial issue. The bleach spray wiped it out completely. The affected parts of the leaves basically just dried up, but the leaves did not shrivel and die. Pretty encouraging in the event something serious pops up when it gets hotter.

Other than that, everything is looking good. Peppers are established but not taking off. That ought to change with some sun and warmth this week. Tomatoes are doing fine and growing slowly. I'm hoping everything pretty much doubles in size over the next couple of weeks with the predicted weather.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 8:49 am
Posted by thedrumdoctor
Gonzales,La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:10 am to
I bought a dwarf cavandish banana plant over the weekend for 6 bucks. just gotta keep it alive during the next winter, and hopefully will get some homegrown bananas next summer
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:14 am to
That's good to hear

These night time temps in the 40's need to move on quick. I've already sown beans and cucumbers. And while they have all sprouted and don't appear to have been harmed by the temps, they have pretty much stalled in growth. Hopefully the warmer daytime temps will help them along. And it would be nice to have a sunny day for once. I've seen nothing but clouds all weekend.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:50 am to
Pretty much all my plants are in the same situation. It makes me wonder how much it actually pays to plant early as opposed to waiting until late March/when it appears the cold is legitimately gone.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:58 am to
I'm going invest in better grow lights, racks, and whatever else I need this year. Next year I'm going to probably plant a little later, but will hopefully have some big plants to transplant. Cause I agree. Not worth the headache and heartache.
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