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re: TRT DosingPosted by Carson123987 
on 1/6/22 at 3:22 pm to rhanse1lsu
on 1/6/22 at 3:22 pm to rhanse1lsuI'm 28 and have total test in the low 200s and free test in the 5s when not supplementing with extraneous testosterone.
My doc started me out at 50mg/week and I am currently up to 120mg/week. Recent labs put me at 537 total test and 20 free test. 120mg/wk puts most people at 800-900 total test, so I just so happen to be a very low responder. Despite my higher numbers, I haven't seen any reduction in symptoms. Doc said for me to stay at 120/wk for a few months and see if I improve, but I'm probably gonna bump it to 160 and see how it goes.
I do subq injections twice a week and they couldn't be easier. Took some tweaking to find a carrier oil that worked for me. The cyp I got for first round was suspended in cottonseed oil and that shite was horrible. Very itchy and irritating. I'm on Enanthate that's suspended in sesame oil now and it's super friendly to my body.
My doc started me out at 50mg/week and I am currently up to 120mg/week. Recent labs put me at 537 total test and 20 free test. 120mg/wk puts most people at 800-900 total test, so I just so happen to be a very low responder. Despite my higher numbers, I haven't seen any reduction in symptoms. Doc said for me to stay at 120/wk for a few months and see if I improve, but I'm probably gonna bump it to 160 and see how it goes.
I do subq injections twice a week and they couldn't be easier. Took some tweaking to find a carrier oil that worked for me. The cyp I got for first round was suspended in cottonseed oil and that shite was horrible. Very itchy and irritating. I'm on Enanthate that's suspended in sesame oil now and it's super friendly to my body.
Posted by Carson123987 on 1/6/22 at 3:24 pm to rhanse1lsu
on 1/6/22 at 3:24 pm to rhanse1lsuquote:
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I confirmed that they did order 100 mg once a month. I questioned them on that and the alternative they gave was 50 mg twice per month. Still pointless from what I gather. Going to do some more research and call around. May decide not to do it at all. Really appreciate all the info I get from here.
that's trash.
if you need help finding more friendly dosages and labs, hit me up. Carson.TD@yahoo.com
Posted by El Magnifico 
on 1/6/22 at 3:38 pm to lsu777
on 1/6/22 at 3:38 pm to lsu777Would someone 46 with total levels 625 ng/dL and free levels 17.3 pg/mL consider TRT? Starting to feel old.
Posted by Carson123987 on 1/6/22 at 3:56 pm to El Magnifico
on 1/6/22 at 3:56 pm to El Magnificoquote:
Would someone 46 with total levels 625 ng/dL and free levels 17.3 pg/mL consider TRT? Starting to feel old.
no doctor on the planet would put you on with those levels
You'd have to source your own test Posted by DarthRebel 
on 1/6/22 at 4:30 pm to El Magnifico
on 1/6/22 at 4:30 pm to El Magnificoquote:
Would someone 46 with total levels 625 ng/dL and free levels 17.3 pg/mL consider TRT? Starting to feel old.
Chart from 1st page, you are technically above average for your age.
Posted by El Magnifico on 1/6/22 at 4:38 pm to DarthRebel
on 1/6/22 at 4:38 pm to DarthRebelWhoops didn't scroll down enough. Well, that's good to know
Posted by lsu777 on 1/6/22 at 8:47 pm to El Magnifico
on 1/6/22 at 8:47 pm to El MagnificoLol yea you in like the 75th percentile. You are what I am at on 100mg a week
Posted by El Magnifico on 1/7/22 at 8:47 am to lsu777
on 1/7/22 at 8:47 am to lsu777I guess that means I just need to get off my ass, drink less and get back in the gym
Posted by lsu777 on 1/7/22 at 8:53 am to El Magnifico
on 1/7/22 at 8:53 am to El Magnificoquote:
I guess that means I just need to get off my ass, drink less and get back in the gym
pretty much
Posted by caro81 on 1/7/22 at 3:15 pm to rhanse1lsu
on 1/7/22 at 3:15 pm to rhanse1lsui had 2 tests, 150 and 210.
i was on 80 mg twice week for few months. levels went to mid 700. im at 100 mg twice week now. been that way for few weeks and will retest in few more.
i was on 80 mg twice week for few months. levels went to mid 700. im at 100 mg twice week now. been that way for few weeks and will retest in few more.
Posted by caro81 on 1/7/22 at 3:21 pm to El Magnifico
on 1/7/22 at 3:21 pm to El Magnificoquote:
Would someone 46 with total levels 625 ng/dL and free levels 17.3 pg/mL consider TRT? Starting to feel old.
no
Posted by Carson123987 on 1/7/22 at 10:31 pm to caro81
on 1/7/22 at 10:31 pm to caro81quote:
i had 2 tests, 150 and 210. i was on 80 mg twice week for few months. levels went to mid 700. im at 100 mg twice week now. been that way for few weeks and will retest in few more.
Crazy how much it can vary person to person. I was at 249 on my very first round of bloods (natty)
After 4 weeks of 50mg, my test went DOWN to 231
After 4 weeks of 80mg, my test went up to 286
After 4 weeks of 120mg, my test is 537.
Weird how it works. Anxious to see what 160 does
This post was edited on 1/7 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Irregardless on 1/7/22 at 10:48 pm to Carson123987
quote:
that's trash
I asked my PCP to call in some needles for sub-q injections and he was not receptive. He said IM is more efficient and easier on the body. I pointed him to the studies that say otherwise.
I was at 200 mg a week when I was feeling the best I have in the last 15 years. Levels around 750. But that was a cash pay clinic. Pretty much black market as you pay a shite ton out of pocket.
Bottom line: Most don’t need TRT in this thread. And those that do are being underserved.
Posted by Aquila on 1/8/22 at 9:03 am to Irregardless
quote:
I asked my PCP to call in some needles for sub-q injections and he was not receptive
Insulin syringes are cheap - $15 for a box of 100, don't even bother with asking your doc to call them in. These are what I use
EasyTouch 29g insulin syringe box of 100
These are 1/2" but if you like SubQ, you can find the same shorter and usually cheaper
This post was edited on 1/8 at 9:05 am
Posted by Irregardless on 1/8/22 at 9:46 am to Aquila
Man, thanks a ton. I’ve looked online several times but never found them. Just ordered a box.
I used to just go to one of the “anti-aging clinics” like I was a customer and got free needles. But they are all larger for IM.
I used to just go to one of the “anti-aging clinics” like I was a customer and got free needles. But they are all larger for IM.
Posted by LEASTBAY on 1/8/22 at 9:52 am to Irregardless
on 1/8/22 at 9:52 am to IrregardlessI use 31g. Inject .22mL every other day. I warm the test with a hair dryer a little. Prevents little lumps and hurts less.
LINK
LINK
not to mention that warming the vial makes the oil base a LOT easier to draw
but yeah 31g, 29g.... any of those are better than the harpoons the doc gave me when I started. He tried to tell me I couldn't draw into such a small bore syringe until I showed him I could.
but yeah 31g, 29g.... any of those are better than the harpoons the doc gave me when I started. He tried to tell me I couldn't draw into such a small bore syringe until I showed him I could.
Posted by Carson123987 on 1/8/22 at 11:08 am to Irregardless
on 1/8/22 at 11:08 am to Irregardlessquote:
I asked my PCP to call in some needles for sub-q injections and he was not receptive. He said IM is more efficient and easier on the body. I pointed him to the studies that say otherwise.
I'd say 90% of doctors are living in the stone age regarding TRT. 777 sent me a video of John Crisler explaining that he found subq afforded MORE efficient absorption than IM did. All these docs that went to med school 20 years ago are just behind the times.
When my doc prescribes me mine, he said that they don't even allow you to choose Subq injections as an option when writing the administration instructions. All they offer is IM
quote:
But that was a cash pay clinic. Pretty much black market as you pay a shite ton out of pocket.
it's insane what those places charge, I'd love to find a doctor as a silent partner and open one. like 2500-3000 for a year of test LOL
Posted by Carson123987 on 1/8/22 at 11:09 am to Aquila
on 1/8/22 at 11:09 am to AquilaWestend Supplies is a great source for needles and syringes as well. I use 27ga 1/2" and have no problems. Still easy enough to push oil while being convenient and pain-free
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