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re: To all the Cold Plungers out there....
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:48 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:48 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Cold is good for you too. Not everyone wants a barrel belly and cpap
based on? its doesnt do any of the things it claims to do. doesnt burn fat, doesnt burn visceral fat, doesnt do any of the shite it claims
nobody should want any type of belly and nobody should want to use a cpap and 90% of the people that do should just lose the weight and wouldnt have to.
do you have some new studies that have come out in the last 2 weeks showing cold plunging does all the stuff it claims that override dozens and dozens of other studies?
or are you just talking?
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:57 am to lsu777
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its doesnt do any of the things it claims to do
It absolutely decreases inflammation
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:36 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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It absolutely decreases inflammation
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Our results suggest that cold water immersion is no more effective than active recovery for minimizing the inflammatory and stress responses in muscle after resistance exercise.
LINK
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Is the ice bath finally melting? Cold water immersion is no greater than active recovery upon local and systemic inflammatory cellular stress in humans
LINK
you were saying??
Im willing to admit like i did earlier, you may notice a short term benefit on inflammation in the stomach but its not true reduction.
ice baths are great if they make you feel good.....keep doing them, but stop trying to say they have all kinds of benefits when we have dozens of highly controlled studies and even meta analysis that show different.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:54 am to lsu777
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Im willing to admit like i did earlier, you may notice a short term benefit on inflammation
So it reduces inflammation, thanks
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:03 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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So it reduces inflammation, thanks
i said possible, the studies show no effect.
thanks for being wrong.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:10 am to lsu777
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the studies show no effect.
That’s not true. The study showed there’s no difference between cold water immersion and active recovery
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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That’s not true. The study showed there’s no difference between cold water immersion and active recovery
so you didnt read the study....the active recovery was 10 min of riding a damn stationary bike for 10 min lol
from another study on exercise induced inflammation
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CWI for 10 min at 10 °C appears very likely to be more
effective than passive recovery at restoring force generating
capacity of muscle in a SSC, but no CWI protocol used in
the current study was effective at restoring performance in
a purely concentric movement. CWI does not attenuate the
inflammatory response to an acute bout of normothermic
high-intensity intermittent sprint exercise when compared
with passive recovery. 30-min immersions to the iliac crest
in both cool (20 °C) and cold (10 °C) water appear to exacerbate specific aspects of the exercise-induced inflammatory
response. Performance effects CWI used following normothermic sprint exercise are not likely a result of attenuation
of the inflammatory response to this type of exercise.
LINK
here is another showing it does not effect recovery
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The present study demonstrated that four CWI administrations were not effective to accelerate the recovery of muscle function.
LINK
like i said...the studies show consistently that it does not help recovery or inflammation but it does cause a large release of noradrenaline and dopamine.
for fatloss...nope, despite the brown fat activation thermogensis
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As a mechanism for weight loss, the evidence does not support ICE
LINK
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:46 am to lsu777
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for fatloss...nope, despite the brown fat activation thermogensis
Literally no one is saying this. You are truly incapable of understanding context… which really shouldn’t be that surprising considering you let a dude with face tattoos steal money from you numerous times
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:00 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Literally no one is saying this. You are truly incapable of understanding context… which really shouldn’t be that surprising considering you let a dude with face tattoos steal money from you numerous times
huh? face tattoos? wtf you talking about? i think you have me confused
as far as what i wrote...i didn't say anyone was talking about it. and i certainly understand context...that is why i put the part in there on dopamine and NA,
every time you cant win an argument or are proven wrong...you claim the other person doesn't understand context and immediately try attacking the person providing the information. its a very low iq thing to do
and nobody with face tattoos has stolen money from me, dunno wtf you are talking about.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:05 am to lsu777
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and nobody with face tattoos has stolen money from me, dunno wtf you are talking about.
False
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:28 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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False
again wtf are you talking about. nobody has stolen money from me. please link me to a post saying that?
i have never given money to anyone on this board but PJ when me an SFP donated when the tree fell on his trailer. and it was one time and we made him send pictures with a paper with his screenname and date in the picture, SFP can verify, so can PJ.
we did it because we have both been blessed beyond what we could ever hope for and PJ was in a bad spot with no money and no place to sleep.
i have never had money stolen from me by some person with face tattoos. or given money to one.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:41 am to lsu777
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i have never had money stolen from me by some person with face tattoos
You’re right, you gave it to him voluntarily on multiple occasions. Mingo regrets the error
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You’re right, you gave it to him voluntarily on multiple occasions. Mingo regrets the error
who? PJ? I have him $50 bucks to get a hotel for the night for him and his wife, SFP did the same
so excuse me for trying to help someone who literally had a tree laying across his trailer.
$50 aint much for me...sorry its too much for you to help someone in need.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 11:51 am to Mingo Was His NameO
and again...why the change in the subject? maybe because you are wrong on cold water immersion
me being a nice person and helping PJ doesnt make me wrong on that issue
just like you being 160 lbs doesnt mean you dont know shite about working out....now being 160lbs at 15% bodyfat does though.
me being a nice person and helping PJ doesnt make me wrong on that issue
just like you being 160 lbs doesnt mean you dont know shite about working out....now being 160lbs at 15% bodyfat does though.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:08 pm to lsu777
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based on?
There are many studies out there touting the benefits of cold water immersion (CWI) but many studies aren't as robust as researchers would like them to be. Still, this doesn't negate the benefits identified in these studies, the benefits of cold exposure that reputable scientists (Huberman, Rhonda Kirkpatrick, Peter Attita) disseminate, the mental fortitude it develops, anecdotal stories of positive improvements, or the fact that high elite sports medicine facilities have used it forever, etc....
I'd love for more conclusive studies b/c I would like to do the minimum given my Raynaud's. Like I mentioned, I just want to be healthy. I've been doing cold plunges for 2 years and can't wait to incorporate heat therapy too!
I plan to do heat therapy immediately after exercising followed by cold (possibly contrast therapy) but I need to research that a bit more.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:15 pm to Cali 4 LSU
all for people doing them if they like them...i make no bones I dont think they are good for you. they certainly feel good though. I use to do them alot and will still jump in the cold pool from the hot tub during the winter.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:03 pm to lsu777
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I dont think they are good for you.
What specifically is bad about them? What made you change your mind on them?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 3:52 pm to Cali 4 LSU
They slow recovery and blunt hypertrophic response and all the studies came out showing that over and over and over again and all well designed studies.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:15 pm to lsu777
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They slow recovery and blunt hypertrophic response and all the studies came out showing that over and over and over again and all well designed studies.
So for someone like me...would you say that doesn't apply, since I'm not necessarily looking for hypertrophy?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:51 pm to Cali 4 LSU
I do hot cold contrast therapy. IF Sauna 20 min...cold (45 degrees) 4 min for two rds. I can only say what it's done for me. One man study.
Haven't had a cold, sinus infection,... anything for the two years I have been doing it. I usually do this protocol 3 to 4 times per week.
It does help with soreness and typical inflammatory pain involving post heavy lifting sessions for me. I don't do the protocol for at least 4 hrs after a work out.
I have my own set up so it's easy access but it does suck getting in that tub.
Not saying what others will benefit from it but for me.... its been awesome. Do what works for you.
Haven't had a cold, sinus infection,... anything for the two years I have been doing it. I usually do this protocol 3 to 4 times per week.
It does help with soreness and typical inflammatory pain involving post heavy lifting sessions for me. I don't do the protocol for at least 4 hrs after a work out.
I have my own set up so it's easy access but it does suck getting in that tub.
Not saying what others will benefit from it but for me.... its been awesome. Do what works for you.
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