Thinking about cheating on deadlifts

Do whatever feels right. Tried sumo once and it feels kinda like when I try to throw a baseball with my left arm. Like I had no idea what I was doing.

My understanding is low bar squat works the same muscle group as deadlift since it is the same motion. You have big goals though so you probably know what you are going for.

Alan Thrall

I never knew what sumo was for other than it looked like you didn't have as far to go

I only do sumo
It's better for the knees

Buddy of mine switched to sumo and it has worked wonders for him. He is in his early forties and his hips and knees don't have the same mobility.

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I recently looked at my form on camera and just can't seem to get in good position

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As I told you in a previous thread, this happens with age. Nothing you can do about it. Yes there are things to slow it but at some point DL's are not worth the risk. Your hip girdle changes with age. Snatch squats are the best thing to do if you want to continue DL. Trust me it doesn't get easier.

Lol it's just me not practicing conventional correctly. The movement is fine.

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My back always hurts no matter how much I focus on my form when I do over 3 reps.

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I typically do what I can at least four reps because if I go too heavy the form gives. I never ever go for the one rep max, nothing good comes from that

I'm 31 and setting up in a wide stance for anything hurts the hell out of my hips. I tried Sumo, but it's just not comfortable. I did some digging recently and found some really good info.

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When looking at the demands of the sumo and conventional deadlift, there are only two major differences.
1. Sumo deadlifts are harder on your quads. When the bar broke the ground, knee moment was approximately 3x higher for sumo deadlifts than conventional deadlifts. This was also reflected in another deadlift study Escamilla did, looking at EMG data. EMG readings for the quads (vastus lateralis and medialis) were higher in the sumo deadlift than the conventional deadlift.
2. Conventional deadlifts are harder on your spinal erectors off the floor. Data from Cholewicki shows that spinal extension demands are approximately 10% higher in the conventional deadlift. Since the torso is inclined farther forward at the start of the lift, it’ll take a harder contraction of the spinal erectors to keep the back extended as the bar breaks off the floor.

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Strongerbyscience.com - Sumo vs Conv

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close stance sumo. As Ed Coan

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That's exactly what I was going to try. Hybrid sumo. Still have somewhat speed off the floor.

I use bands a little. I can get medium to wide on squats just not super wide like i see some guys. No problem with knees caving or anything, just hip flexor pain at the bottom position.

Im in the middle of fixing my mild anterior pelvic tilt which i think is my main issue with my hip mobility, my hip flexors are crazy tight some mornings. Which compounds itself on squats as they actually tighten further to pull you down deeper if you have APT.