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Running and strength training

Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted by gringeaux
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:42 pm
I have recently gotten back into running, with the goal of running a 1/2 marathon by the end of 2018. Right now I am gearing up for another 10k this weekend.

My question is what type of strength training do you do or would you recommend? Right now I am doing some short runs (3-4m) and sprints on Tue/Thur, and longer run 6m+ on Saturday. What are some good programs or plans to start to incorporate to help hit this goal, and also help decrease my mile time.

TIA
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Yung_Humma
Member since Oct 2013
853 posts
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:19 pm to
Can I tag along with this thread?

Want to train for a 10k and have currently been doing Stronglifts, but I feel like this may be too much squatting.

Hope to do something similar in terms of 3 exercises using the bar each workout.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 6:38 am to
for the better part of last year I would do
Monday - full body including squats and deads
Tuesday - run 6 - 8 miles usually some combo of intervals
Wednesday - full body including squats and deads
Thursday - same as Tuesday
Friday - Upper body (Chest, Shoulders, Back)
Saturday - Long run
Sunday - Rest

I also mixed in some hip thrust here and there.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 7:32 am to
You don't want to put on any mass. It's harder to carry. If you want to be competitive, don't lift. If just a hobby, prioritize one or the other and do a maintenance until you have reached your running goal then work to progress the lifting after you meet a goal and then go for the long haul
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25724 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Want to train for a 10k and have currently been doing Stronglifts, but I feel like this may be too much squatting.



Could switch to madcow or another regimen where you squat heavy less often. Then you could train running more around the lighter days squatting
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:10 am to
I don't think lifting heavy on legs is a bad thing. Stronger legs will help your running and help prevent injury.

Upper body lifting isn't a bad thing either. you aren't going to put on enough muscle mass to really slow you down and I've read that can actually help your running.

You also want to strengthen your core. It all depends on your goals. If you just want to finish a half marathon, you probably don't have to do anything but run.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 9:27 am to
Depends on goals. A truly competitive race wants to be light. I've heard rule of thumb that 1 lb is 2 seconds per mile. so drop 10 lbs of unnecessary fat and or muscle, and you gain a minute in a 5k for the same effort. Of course that is just a rough estimate.

For someone doing it as a hobby, I think you can easily lift and do all squats and still reach your goal. As someone doing triathlons, I often have huge bike workouts and have to run on dead legs the next day. Not ideal, but it works. Run very easy. much easier than you plan to for a race. spend. small amount of your training working on more up tempo stuff when your legs aren't tired from working out. Maybe 20% of your running.
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Run very easy. much easier than you plan to for a race. spend. small amount of your training working on more up tempo stuff when your legs aren't tired from working out. Maybe 20% of your running.


Great advice

I lift 5 days a week with an upper/lower split

I run 3 days a week
usually a 5k, sometimes at a good tempo, sometimes easy

3-4 miles of track work at quick tempo with a 1 mile warm up and cool down

Long slow run one day a week for 6-10 miles usually

I limit high effort runs to help prevent injury

Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9308 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:55 pm to
While I'm all about squatting, if your primary goal is running - I prefer single leg movements. Lunges or bulg split squats would be perfect. Step-ups, too.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67426 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

rule of thumb that 1 lb is 2 seconds per mile

I wish I could adhere to this.
No doubt my extra 10 pounds costs me.
It's just hard to keep the weight in the ideal category. But that's what good runners do.
Not the American "average" weight, that's way too high.
This is the ideal weight
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