RAD-140 and MK-677

I have no first hand experience, but from what I’ve read the SARMS seem like they’re less effective than anabolic steroids and still carry similar health risks. I think if I was going one of the two routes I’d go with the steroids.

I’d look into whether or not you need to take enclo during that cycle. Like I said I have no firsthand experience, but I’ve read there some natural hormone production suppression.

I can’t remember, but I think one of the two (Rad-140 and Mk-677) was a bit more aggressive than the other.

There’s whole sarms subreddit that would give you much better guidance than I can.

mk-677 is not a sarm. it is a ghrelin agonist. It is a growth hormone secretagogues receptor (think growth hormone releasing peptide except mk677 is not a peptide and binds at the ghrelin receptor inducing a release of GH, mimicking a ghrp.)

a 25mg dose is similar to roughly 2iu of growth or essentially putting you in the very high end of an 18 year old male.

issue is mk677 makes you extremely sleepy, causes water retention and negatively effects blood sugar.

good things are it makes you hungry AF because of the ghrelin. Im talking never ending hunger that hurts.

it has no real negative feedback loop that causes suppression so extremely easy to recover from. it has zero effect on the sex hormones either.

overall a very very safe compound that should be used for bulking with the understanding that almost all of your gains will be through increased hunger. Should be taken at night so the sleepiness is put to good use.

i usually have teens that need to gain weight start on the ppsa eating thick plan. after they plateau i have them start 5g creatine, after another plateau if they are want something more and are talking about turning to SARMS or juice, i tend to steer them to double the creatine and add in 20mg of mk677 to drive weight up

its not really what i prefer but much prefer someone take something non hormonal like mk677 than something like a rad-140 which is, at least when it comes to teens. Just trying to protect the endocrine system as much as possible.

works very well but watch BP, water retention and blood sugar. Usually take for 12-16 weeks because you are looking to add mass from the extra food but if BP & blood sugar are under control, can be run for 6+ months. Usually start at 20mg and raise as needed to keep hunger there.




as far as rad-140. it is a SARM. it will shut down natural test production and although it is not methylated at the c-17 position, it does have a slight effect on liver values.

it is a pretty versatile sarm. It will add lots of strength and can be used to cut or bulk. it will harden you and add some muscle too if diet is on point.

things to watch on it BP, no drinking on it, etc. this will cause suppression of HPTA just like a steroid cycle so you will need to add a post cycle therapy if not on TRT. Also because it suppresses natural test, could cause lack of sex drive, loss of energy etc if not on TRT.

usually run for 8-12 weeks. starting at 15-20mg and titrate up as handled

science bio is the place to get those types of things.


hope this helps, fire any questions you may have. IMO if you are not

1) making money off your body or
2) not on trt

then i wouldnt do anything like Rad-140 just due to suppression. FTR taking these things does make you not a lifetime natty.....not that anyone cares as TRT does too.

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So how much taller will that make me or am I screwed?

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if growth plates are closed....screwed

if not, gh therpy has been shown to increase ~3" on average.

dosing on the ghrh/ghrp protocols depends on how you want to do it

imo if using the cjc as ghrp...tesa and ipam as ghrp it would look something like this

morning-250mcg of tesa/cjc

get some kind of walk in while fasted. no eating for 2 hours after injection. more movement you can get the better here

eat protein based breakfast...limit fat intake though

mid morning- repeat morning and protocol

then at night before bed....boom dose. so 250mcg cjc and 1500-2500mcg of ipam.

this is the best protocol imo

but start another thread and we can discuss. just call it GH peptide protocols.

Please do!

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Evenings. It may be coincidence but my sleep has been incredible lately.

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its not, you should always take a dose before bed, preferably boom dose to match natural GH release

but also taking a smaller dose in the morning and every 3-4 hours if possible for fat burning. if using it to put on muscle its the same but use ghrp2 to induce more hunger


Hex is still the strongest ghrp but has the big down regulation so only 6 week or so cycles before having to more to ipam as the ghrp.

tesa is great for visceral fat, better than the other ghrps.

still need to take a ghrh with these for max benefits.

I was told on RAD-140 if I do four weeks on and then four weeks off, my test production and hormones would be fine and back to normal.

That accurate?
Also, does it cause hair loss?