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re: Official intermittent fasting thread
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:28 pm to BRgetthenet
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:28 pm to BRgetthenet
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OP sounds grouchy.
Prolly needs a snickers.
well it is my low carb day lol. and no I thought he was just trolling. And I was annoyed that I couldn't even finish the post before somebody started shitting on the thread. I was wrong and CBandit is just a bad arse
as far as drinking alcohol and still losing weight, yes it is possible. please read the articles in the drive I linked.
BTW there are about 500 dollars worth of programs free to download on there including kenobody, greyskull, 5/3/1, fat loss forever, warrior diet, eat stop eat and others.
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:28 pm to BRgetthenet
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Prolly needs a snickers.
"...In several papers Mattson discussed during a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in February, he and other researchers say that depriving ourselves via fasting twice a week could significantly lower the risk of developing Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's.
The findings resonate with decades-old studies that show a link between caloric intake and oxidative "rusting"—the stress on cells that comes when people get older and take in food. "One of the only ways to slow down the progression of aging that involves disease or organ malfunctions is to reduce energy intake," says Mattson, who has been studying Alzheimer's and the brain for 20 years and, according to Thomson Reuters' database, is the most cited neuroscientist in scholarly journals worldwide. "As is similar to what happens when muscles are exercised, the neurons in the brain benefit from being mildly stressed. To achieve the right kind of stress, people might benefit from severely minimizing their food intake.
............."
So put down the candy you fatty!
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:30 pm to lsu777
quote:The more you fast the more you know!
and you are 100% correct in that Fasting protocols have a ton of health benefits that you can not get from just restricting calories, including longer life spans.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:31 pm to lsu777
I did this not on purpose throughout my years in the service industry. Go into work at 5PM, work until late at night, drink a lot/eat something small after your shift, pass out, sleep until 1pm, be too lazy to get out of bed until 4pm, grab a snack, go to work to do it all over again.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:31 pm to lsu777
I've been doing a fast on Mondays that start Sunday after dinner and go until lunch on Monday.
My problem is, I lift in the AM's.
How bad is it that I wait until 12pm on Monday to eat after lifting at 5:45-6 to 7:15?
My problem is, I lift in the AM's.
How bad is it that I wait until 12pm on Monday to eat after lifting at 5:45-6 to 7:15?
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:31 pm to DawgGONIT
Great info. And yea I read a simple reason for many of the benefits from fasting the other day
"When we eat our body has to use energy to process the food and internal heat is a by product of the process, so when eating 6-8 meals a day you are essentially cooking your insides all day long"
its not a scientific or technical explanation, but its true and is simple to understand.
"When we eat our body has to use energy to process the food and internal heat is a by product of the process, so when eating 6-8 meals a day you are essentially cooking your insides all day long"
its not a scientific or technical explanation, but its true and is simple to understand.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:34 pm to BRgetthenet
its not bad at all. In the post about lean gains, I go over morning lifting when using an afternoon eating schedule.
Martin says this is one of if not the best protocol for fat loss.
quote:
Leangains Setup for morning lifters
• Lift Days-3 or 4 days
o If you lift in the morning you would get up and lift, have 10g BCAAs before lifting and 10g during.
o No cardio if lifting in the morning, period. None. If you want to burn extra calories try and get in 5k steps before breaking your fast. 10k overall for the day.
o Have first meal around 12 which would be the largest and contain pretty much all your carbs
o Spread the rest of your calories/macros up however you would like so long as you are done eating within 8 hours of breaking the fast. For most people this would mean eating dinner with the family sticking to meat/veggies as much as possible and then having a protein shake from casein at 8pm or cottage cheese at 8pm.
• Rest days-3 or 4 days
o Morning walk upon waking. Trying to get a total of 60 min per day in first thing in the morning.
o Try and get an additional 5k steps in before breaking the fast
o Break fast around noon with the largest meal with pretty much all carbs during this meal.
o Additional meals at dinner and 8pm as outlined above.
Martin says this is one of if not the best protocol for fat loss.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:36 pm to LouisianaLady
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I did this not on purpose throughout my years in the service industry. Go into work at 5PM, work until late at night, drink a lot/eat something small after your shift, pass out, sleep until 1pm, be too lazy to get out of bed until 4pm, grab a snack, go to work to do it all over again.
Any reason why you don't go back to trying it again? Did you not notice benefits?
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:36 pm to lsu777
That's what I've been doing 1-2 times a week.
How many times a week can/should you do it?
Is it ok for all 4 of my lift days?
Also, no cardio?
Not even 12 minutes to get warmed up before lifting?
How many times a week can/should you do it?
Is it ok for all 4 of my lift days?
Also, no cardio?
Not even 12 minutes to get warmed up before lifting?
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:37 pm to lsu777
quote:
Great info. And yea I read a simple reason for many of the benefits from fasting the other day
"When we eat our body has to use energy to process the food and internal heat is a by product of the process, so when eating 6-8 meals a day you are essentially cooking your insides all day long"
its not a scientific or technical explanation, but its true and is simple to understand.
Yeah I read a simplistic explanation of it being that when you eat, you use up a lot of energy to digest that food, which can take hours. When fasting, or not digesting, you have more energy available for other bodily functions, like brain power. Like imagine taking a test after eating Thanksgiving dinner, and then after doing a fast. Which gives you a sharper mind? I know I LOVE to sleep after eating a lot.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:42 pm to lsu777
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Any reason why you don't go back to trying it again? Did you not notice benefits?
Well, you're talking sleeping 12-13 hours a night.. running around like a crazy person waiting tables/bartending with no time for a break to eat.. and then eating a small (unhealthy) dinner at 11PM and drinking until you fall asleep at 1-2AM. Sleeping until mid-afternoon keeps you from eating while you're not at work too
That's a complete different lifestyle than sitting at a desk all day with nothing stopping you from eating when you're hungry. It isn't so much that I wasn't hungry back then. It was that I was too busy to think about it or notice the feeling. The feeling of hunger is impossible for me to ignore when I'm sitting around and fully free to eat.
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Did you not notice benefits?
Yeah, I was 90lbs even though the food I did eat was fried/greasy. I'm now 111 (which isn't desirable for me, as I'm 4'8") and it is 100% from no longer getting exercise at the workplace like I used to combined with more time to eat/think about eating.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:44 pm to BRgetthenet
quote:
How many times a week can/should you do it?
Everyday
quote:
Is it ok for all 4 of my lift days?
Yup
quote:
Also, no cardio?
Not even 12 minutes to get warmed up before lifting?
I do some cardio, low mileage running or HIIT. Never had any issues
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:45 pm to BRgetthenet
quote:
That's what I've been doing 1-2 times a week.
How many times a week can/should you do it?
Is it ok for all 4 of my lift days?
Also, no cardio?
Not even 12 minutes to get warmed up before lifting?
Follow the protocol I laid out. essentially if you are lifting 4 days a week you would have 4 lift days and 4 rest days.
Sunday- Eat 12-8
Monday-lift, have BCAAS, EAT 12-8
Tuesday-repeat monday
Wednesday-repeat sunday
Thursday-repeat monday
Friday-repeat monday
saturday-repeat sunday.
as far as cardio, yea you can do a quick warm up but thats not needed. Do a correct lifting warm up. cardio doesn't do shite to get you ready to lift.
and you can do small amounts of cardio but it needs to be either walking on non lifting days or some non intense slow paced cardio after you have broken the fast. Do not go overboard with it, its not needed.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:46 pm to lsu777
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:49 pm to lsu777
Ok.
I'm gonna give it a go.
Tomorrow is a rest day for me, so cardio should be after the fast, and minimal intensity?
What's the optimal amount of time? If I can't swim, how is the eliptical?
I'm gonna give it a go.
Tomorrow is a rest day for me, so cardio should be after the fast, and minimal intensity?
What's the optimal amount of time? If I can't swim, how is the eliptical?
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:50 pm to lsu777
Thanks for posting. Didn't read it all yet, but bookmarked for later. 
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:52 pm to busbeepbeep
Please text me cliffs.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:55 pm to lsu777
I've been doing various forms of IF since the summer. Skipping breakfast helped me break through a weight-loss plateau. Coincidentally, I started skipping lunch as well and just eating a large dinner. Hoping that helps break the most recent plateau on my way to my final goal.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 4:58 pm to lsu777
I read somewhere that Martin was wrong on BCAAs and they break a fast. Ive been waiting until I eat to take my BCAAs just to be on the safe side
Posted on 3/8/16 at 5:00 pm to lsu777
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BTW on the linked drive I have Martins guide to drinking alcohol and still lose weight.
Make this easy on me right now and reply to this with link.
I'm going to read this whole thread later on though. My friend was telling me he's trying this out recently.
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