re: Mental health improvements on TRT?

Another question- how common is it that folks need to take estrogen blockers while on TRT? Wouldn’t your body tend to overcompensate estrogen production if all of a sudden your test skyrockets?

Zero negative sides other than scar tissue now that I have been on for almost 10 years but I had no choice, was below 100 ng/dl after my fertility treatment at 32 years old.

Nothing but positive effects, can it suck taking the shot at times…sure

I give myself the shot, see doctor once a year and do blood work at mid year mark.

I take 2x per week

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Another question- how common is it that folks need to take estrogen blockers while on TRT? Wouldn’t your body tend to overcompensate estrogen production if all of a sudden your test skyrockets?

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AI’s are wayyyy over prescribed. A lot of these cookie cutter clinics will automatically put people on one and they end up bottoming out their E2 feeling like dog shite. You want your E2 as high as possible without side effects. It’s cardio protective, neuro protective, helps with joints and sexual drive.

Back 3-4 yr ago a MD had me on clomid for fertility and 1mg Arimidex 3x/wk. I felt completely awful and turned into the biggest insecure pussy you’ve ever met. Luckily since then I’ve done my own research and now know better. 90% of providers know jack fricking shite about HRT. It’s pretty sad.

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AI’s are wayyyy over prescribed. A lot of these cookie cutter clinics will automatically put people on one and they end up bottoming out their E2 feeling like dog shite. You want your E2 as high as possible without side effects. It’s cardio protective, neuro protective, helps with joints and sexual drive.

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Jack you already know this but for the person you answered: Jack's right, avoid AI's like the plague, more downside than they're worth. One of the ways a lot of guys I know on the TRT boards address the issue is by pinning smaller doses more frequently, like every other day instead of 1-2x week.

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Back 3-4 yr ago a MD had me on clomid for fertility and 1mg Arimidex 3x/wk. I felt completely awful and turned into the biggest insecure pussy you’ve ever met.

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LOL, same experience - the HRT specialist I started with after my PCP said I was "normal" asked if I was interested in trying clomid first. I wasn't familiar with it then so thought, sure why not. I'll tell you why not: after taking that for a couple months I can now fully empathize with what women feel like with severe PMS, it was awful. YMMV, but for me I wouldn't touch the stuff again for anything.

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Luckily since then I’ve done my own research and now know better. 90% of providers know jack fricking shite about HRT. It’s pretty sad.

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Absolutely. You've got to take control of managing your own health care and be fully informed even WITH a HRT doctor who knows more than a PCP (which isn't saying much). The first HRT specialist I saw was great for a while, but after one of my labs show my hematocrit literally one point above range he freaked out and wanted to reduce my dosage. I said, "yeah but we live at 9,000 ft elevation and isn't elevated hematocrit common at higher elevations? He drew himself up and huffed out "which one of us went to medical school?"

I fired him on the spot.


But back to Jack's point, it sometimes helps to have a good HRT doc while you're getting equalized and optimized, but after that I know a lot of men who source their own T and run their own labs; neither is difficult. But the first step is learn everything you can about HRT so you know whether to doc you're talking to knows their stuff or not.

www.excelmale.com is very good but not the only one and there are several good YT channels on the topic

topicals have ~10% absorbtion rate and you have the risk of transferral, but they can have applications to supplement injectables

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LOL, same experience - the HRT specialist I started with after my PCP said I was "normal" asked if I was interested in trying clomid first. I wasn't familiar with it then so thought, sure why not. I'll tell you why not: after taking that for a couple months I can now fully empathize with what women feel like with severe PMS, it was awful. YMMV, but for me I wouldn't touch the stuff again for anything.

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frick clomid

Had to stay on that shite for a year for fertility

That shite had me moodie AF and emotional AF. Every time one of those stupid arse SPCA commercials with the Sarah McGlofflin song came on I would start crying

frick that drug, frick it so fricking hard, I hate that shite!!

Only thing it’s good for is post cycle therapy and breast cancer in women but frick that drug for men!!!!


Oh and did I mention frick CLOMID!!!!

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after taking that for a couple months I can now fully empathize with what women feel like with severe PMS, it was awful. YMMV, but for me I wouldn't touch the stuff again for anything.

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100%. I now empathize (sorta) with women who get crazy secondary to hormones. I thank my wife often for not packing her shite and leaving. I was awful. To the point where I was fighting with her for talking to her female friends. Unlike me at all, normal Jack doesn’t GAF. TRT jack reallly doesn’t GAF.

For those using draw up needles then swapping to their inject needle, check these out. I’ve been using this for about a year and they’re super convenient

LINK

Luer lock syringe threads onto it, withdraw oil, put inject needle on and kaboom. Saves you from having to swap needles and inject a vial multiple times.

The adapter stays in the vial throughout the life of the vial.

Im a fan