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Knees over toes....any1 with experience?
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/21/21 at 11:28 am
Has anyone tried this? Any feedback or pointers?
I love to play basketball and looking into this for longevity of my ankles and knees and just general athleticism.
Also looking into doing this with my 13 year old daughter who is getting into vollyball (be quality time spent together doing this together and help her get better in vollyball). I want her to build up joint strength to deter future injuries as she gets older and eventually gets into more of a workout routine in high school. She also is a “hitter”....if this philosophy really adds significant vertical leaping abilities like I have been reading...I would hope she is jumping out of the gym after a few years!
**note - her “training” would be limited at her younger age. No weights, either body weight or bands for now.
I don’t have experience with these workouts....I can only speak from personal experience though.....looking at what he teaches with the knees....I grew up playing catcher in baseball. I would sit in a squat, knees bent out over my toes like he teaches nearly every day for years (from 8 years old until I graduated high school) and all day over the summers when playing tourney ball. I have never had knee problems (I play bball ~2 times a week still, knock on wood) and have never worked directly on gaining vertical height in my jumps, but I have a pretty good vertical (~34”) at 33 years old and a torn Achilles 2 years ago (was terrible at properly stretching, not anymore!)
I know my knee health and vertical has to do with genetics as well...but just something I realized as I read up on his philosophy that in my younger years I lived with my knees bent out over my toes and now that I’m older I wonder how much of a factor that was in my current abilities.
I love to play basketball and looking into this for longevity of my ankles and knees and just general athleticism.
Also looking into doing this with my 13 year old daughter who is getting into vollyball (be quality time spent together doing this together and help her get better in vollyball). I want her to build up joint strength to deter future injuries as she gets older and eventually gets into more of a workout routine in high school. She also is a “hitter”....if this philosophy really adds significant vertical leaping abilities like I have been reading...I would hope she is jumping out of the gym after a few years!
**note - her “training” would be limited at her younger age. No weights, either body weight or bands for now.
I don’t have experience with these workouts....I can only speak from personal experience though.....looking at what he teaches with the knees....I grew up playing catcher in baseball. I would sit in a squat, knees bent out over my toes like he teaches nearly every day for years (from 8 years old until I graduated high school) and all day over the summers when playing tourney ball. I have never had knee problems (I play bball ~2 times a week still, knock on wood) and have never worked directly on gaining vertical height in my jumps, but I have a pretty good vertical (~34”) at 33 years old and a torn Achilles 2 years ago (was terrible at properly stretching, not anymore!)
I know my knee health and vertical has to do with genetics as well...but just something I realized as I read up on his philosophy that in my younger years I lived with my knees bent out over my toes and now that I’m older I wonder how much of a factor that was in my current abilities.
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Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:17 pm to honeybadger07
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I don’t have experience with these workouts....I can only speak from personal experience though.....looking at what he teaches with the knees....I grew up playing catcher in baseball. I would sit in a squat, knees bent out over my toes like he teaches nearly every day for years (from 8 years old until I graduated high school) and all day over the summers when playing tourney ball. I have never had knee problems (I play bball ~2 times a week still, knock on wood) and have never worked directly on gaining vertical height in my jumps, but I have a pretty good vertical (~34”) at 33 years old and a torn Achilles 2 years ago (was terrible at properly stretching, not anymore!)
I know my knee health and vertical has to do with genetics as well...but just something I realized as I read up on his philosophy that in my younger years I lived with my knees bent out over my toes and now that I’m older I wonder how much of a factor that was in my current abilities.
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Has anyone tried this? Any feedback or pointers?
I love to play basketball and looking into this for longevity of my ankles and knees and just general athleticism.
same background as you with the playing catcher, but am about 5 years older. I follow his philosphy, but as part of my warm up and i absolutely love it and i 100% believe in his philosphy. My certifications are mainly through Defranco and the whole CPPS program and they teach very similar things.
I would highly recommend the program. It is laid out to where even the simpliest beginner can progress.
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Also looking into doing this with my 13 year old daughter who is getting into vollyball (be quality time spent together doing this together and help her get better in vollyball). I want her to build up joint strength to deter future injuries as she gets older and eventually gets into more of a workout routine in high school. She also is a “hitter”....if this philosophy really adds significant vertical leaping abilities like I have been reading...I would hope she is jumping out of the gym after a few years!
**note - her “training” would be limited at her younger age. No weights, either body weight or bands for now.
she is 13, that is perfect time to start lifting. Do not limit her to just bodyweight. kids can start lifting as soon as they are able to behave and take the weigth room seriously.
any myths you may have heard abotu it not being good for younger kids are just that myths based upon cooralations of young people in the coal mines and those in gymnastics, not based on actual scientific data or causation studies. In fact the opposite is true in that it will help them grow stronger and densier bones and the increases Growth hormone will help them to grow taller, not close the growth plates.
here is a 5 part serious from a team of medical doctors that looked a the actual science of youth training, where the myths began etc. Worth a read if you happen to be nervous, but at 13, she is more than fine to start lifting.
LINK
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:19 pm to honeybadger07
also here is a long thread from here where we discuss with a link to my google drive that has most of the program(i still recommend getting the program from him so you know the progressions etc)
LINK
LINK
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:44 pm to honeybadger07
I just started his basic 7 from YouTube. I have chronic IT band syndrome and I can keep it controllable but never relieved. But that damn couch stretch with the lung with it has stretched my TFL better than anything I've ever done. Trying to work up to all the advanced movements.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:50 pm to lsu777
Nice, thanks for the info!
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