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Improving HDL’s

Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:23 am
Posted by Mud Flat
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 9:23 am
I have had chronically low HDL’s for years with an otherwise normal lipid panel. Over the past year I have been able to raise it from 23 to 28. I’m in my late 30’s. Lift weights 4x a week. Admittedly, I hate cardio but I average 8-10k steps a day. I eat pistachios and avocados multiple times a week. I’ve read studies that fish oil isn’t really effective to raise HDL. Is the answer more cardio?
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:05 am to
tell us youre on gear without telling us youre on gear.

I take 6g omega-3 per day (split between liquid nordic naturals oil and kirkland gelcaps, and live in the mid 30s of HD. My total chol and LDL are both low , TriGlys are low, and my ApoB and LipoA are both good , so I don't really care too much about the lowish HDL value for these reasons)

They say Niacin/B3 is the other supplement that can help raise HDL by up to ~20% if you can tolerate it , but it doesn't agree with me personally. I tried and discontinued it (uncomfortable flushing/hot flashes) YMMV

As far as your question: YES , more cardio is pretty much the answer to most of life's lipid woes in combination with a smart clean diet.


Posted by Mud Flat
Member since Aug 2026
17 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:29 am to
lol I am not on the juice. 3 years ago when my HDL was 23 I was getting pretty fat so I chalked up low HDL’s to being fat, terrible diet, and inactivity. I made major dietary changes, got back in the gym, focused on reaching my step goals, cut alcohol, and added a smidge of Reta.

You answered my next question regarding if apob, LDL, triglycerides, total cholesterol are fine how big of a deal is low HDL. Cardiologist seem to hone in on HDL’s regardless. I guess I’m getting back on the treadmill. I’m going to give omega3 a shot and look into niacin/B3. Thanks
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 9/20/26 at 10:43 am to
was kinda joking about the gear thing (but not totally convinced you are Natty unless you tell me you're into Hyrox , then Ill believe you)

Most Anabolics suppress HDL to some degree, with some classes being worse than others, but its a very common issue that most gear users have to accept and remediate

Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17040 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 12:32 am to
When I was in my 30s, no exercise, I was consistently around 30 sometimes even high 20s. Late 40s now and I'm typically 40-45. Test 2-3 times a yr. Exercise free weights and cardio 4-5 days a week.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39136 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 7:51 am to
cirtrus bergmont- 1500-2000mg daily- split & take with each meal

Nattokinase- 8000-12000 iu daily- split morning and night, take on empty stomach

super vit k- 2 caps split morning and night

very high quality fish or krill oil- try and get 4000mg combined epa/dha daily
Posted by Mud Flat
Member since Aug 2026
17 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:34 am to
Thanks! I.’m extremely active now but I have always hated running for “fun”. But I know cardio must be done.
Posted by Mud Flat
Member since Aug 2026
17 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:35 am to
Thanks for the recs 777. I’m definitely going to look into all of those
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:18 am to
cirtrus bergmont- good call , supported by studies

Nattokinase- not reliable unless super high dose and can affect other things that need to be considered

super vit k- 2 - not aware of studies or any supporting data

very high quality fish or krill oil- yes !
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39136 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Nattokinase- not reliable unless super high dose and can affect other things that need to be considered



not true....plenty of studies on this. not going to link them, i have plenty of other times nor am i going to argue.... but sure rely on AI

quote:

super vit k- 2 - not aware of studies or any supporting data


there are...again I have linked them before.

dante trudal has the studies listed on his insta if you want to go dig.
Posted by NewOrleansBlend
Member since Mar 2008
1233 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 6:43 pm to
Low HDL itself is not causative of heart disease, and high HDL is not protective. Elevating HDL by itself with niacin, ctep inhibitors have not been effective at reducing heart disease in clinical trials, ctep inhibitors actually caused harm.

It is correlated with it but correlation does not equal causation. This is primarily mediated through insulin resistance and subsequently elevated triglycerides. High triglycerides directly lower HDL as HdL is consumed transporting them in the blood. Do not trust the labs that say <150 trigs are normal. Normal is actually less than 80, maybe 100 at most.

What are your triglycerides? Have you checked a fasting insulin preferably or at least an a1c?
This post was edited on 9/21/26 at 7:40 pm
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8275 posts
Posted on 9/21/26 at 7:31 pm to
My HDL has never topped 30, and by 50 I'd made peace with it being my normal. I'm convinced diet won't move the needle for me, and neither will any reasonable amount of exercise. I've tested that theory extensively, lifting three days a week, biking 25 miles a day, running 3 miles a day, plus a job that keeps me on my feet for eight hours straight, and I still couldn't crack 30.
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1709 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:42 am to
quote:

not true....plenty of studies on this. not going to link them, i have plenty of other times nor am i going to argue.... but sure rely on AI


well damn. I was hoping to argue.

And why the AI hate ? Does it not make your life better in so many ways?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
39136 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:45 am to
quote:

And why the AI hate ? Does it not make your life better in so many ways?


no i use the shite out of it. but AI is normally only as smart as the info you give it. it makes lots of mistakes.

it is amazing at machine learning though, but that takes time and constant information fed to it. AIs biggest strength is recognizing patterns in piles of information and making sense of it.

many times on studies like this, it fails to really dive deep and understand it, especially with free version

NATT has a lot of reasons to take it. is the effect on HDL as pronounced as citrus bergmont...absolutely not but for overall heart attack risk and stroke risk....it is the number 1 thing you can take, even over most scripts.

but it has to be taken in larger dosing too.
Posted by Mud Flat
Member since Aug 2026
17 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:26 pm to
LDL’s-79, total cholesterol-124, triglycerides-91, HDL-28, apob- 70, A1c 5.1, Fasting glucose 88.

Very strong genetic heart disease component from my dad (cabgx2) and grandfather (passed away mid 50’s from a MI)
This post was edited on 9/25/26 at 9:32 pm
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