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Posted on 11/6/24 at 8:25 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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Fruit sounds good! Are greens that bad for you?
Greens are much more likely to be inflammatory
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:32 pm to scottydoesntknow
I did not know that. Dammit.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:23 am to KCRoyalBlue
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I did not know that. Dammit.
"Greens" is a broad term. I'm assuming the toxins they are referring to are oxalate. If not, they can correct me.
Spinach and Chard are high in oxalate, but not high enough that you should avoid them entirely. Spinach provides a shite ton of health benefits. You can boil spinach to remove some of the oxalate, but you also remove some of the health benefits if you go that route.
1/2-1 cup of spinach twice a week will not do you any harm unless you have a history of stones. Additionally, other "green" have far less oxalate and also provide a great deal of nutrients.
I'd recommend (as to not deny yourself), a green salad with a good amount of protein (salmon/steak/chicken), eggs, maybe some nuts, and a very small amount of dried fruits and a light dressing. Maybe even a homemade dressing so you can control what's in it.
These salads can be filling, give you extra vitamins and plant compounds, and be heavy on the protein all at the same time.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:52 am to Odysseus32
The "greens" that I like are:
Green beans
Snap peas
Raw spinach
Fresh basil
Mesclun (Spring mix)
Romaine lettuce
Arugula (rarely)
Sweet peas (rarely)
Iceberg (rarely)
Anything in there I need to avoid?
Green beans
Snap peas
Raw spinach
Fresh basil
Mesclun (Spring mix)
Romaine lettuce
Arugula (rarely)
Sweet peas (rarely)
Iceberg (rarely)
Anything in there I need to avoid?
Posted on 11/7/24 at 3:19 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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The "greens" that I like are: Green beans Snap peas Raw spinach Fresh basil Mesclun (Spring mix) Romaine lettuce Arugula (rarely) Sweet peas (rarely) Iceberg (rarely) Anything in there I need to avoid?
There arent carnivore police. You can eat whatever you want to...but if you dont eliminate foods other than meat, you are completely defeating the purpose of the diet. The magic isnt the meat, its the elimination of foods your body has an inflammatory response to.
If just being overweight was your one issue, ud say thats fine...but you have inflammatory diseases that need to be addressed. You wont be "healthier" eating spinach.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 3:24 pm to Odysseus32
quote:
Greens" is a broad term. I'm assuming the toxins they are referring to are oxalate. If not, they can correct me. Spinach and Chard are high in oxalate, but not high enough that you should avoid them entirely. Spinach provides a shite ton of health benefits. You can boil spinach to remove some of the oxalate, but you also remove some of the health benefits if you go that route. 1/2-1 cup of spinach twice a week will not do you any harm unless you have a history of stones. Additionally, other "green" have far less oxalate and also provide a great deal of nutrients. I'd recommend (as to not deny yourself), a green salad with a good amount of protein (salmon/steak/chicken), eggs, maybe some nuts, and a very small amount of dried fruits and a light dressing. Maybe even a homemade dressing so you can control what's in it. These salads can be filling, give you extra vitamins and plant compounds, and be heavy on the protein all at the same time.
To a person with no issues, id say this is just fine...but to a person dealing with inflammatory diseases, this is terrible advice. Plant foods that arent fully digested, nuts, fruits are all possible triggers for inflammation
A better approach is just to do full elimination and after 100% adaptation, then add in these foods one at a time to see if there is a bad response
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 11/7/24 at 4:37 pm to scottydoesntknow
Ok, it's making a bit more sense now.
I just loaded up at the store with ground beef, pork chops, and chicken breasts. Couldn't find any cuts of steak that I liked. Going to check around town.
Thank you all!
I just loaded up at the store with ground beef, pork chops, and chicken breasts. Couldn't find any cuts of steak that I liked. Going to check around town.
Thank you all!
Posted on 11/7/24 at 5:14 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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Ok, it's making a bit more sense now. I just loaded up at the store with ground beef, pork chops, and chicken breasts. Couldn't find any cuts of steak that I liked. Going to check around town. Thank you all!
Godspeed friend! The first weeks are the hardest but stay with it(and dont stray too far from toilet)
Looking forward to hearing how it goes!
Posted on 11/7/24 at 6:21 pm to scottydoesntknow
It seems strange that the carnivore diet would cause such diarrhea issues, but many people all say it's brutal. Guess I'll have to be careful.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 6:34 pm to KCRoyalBlue
Try it first before you worry too much about the diarrhea, I tried carnivore years ago (couldn't stick with it, too boring for me just eating meat) and I never had that issue personally.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:28 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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It seems strange that the carnivore diet would cause such diarrhea issues, but many people all say it's brutal. Guess I'll have to be careful.
It mostly is a problem with the really fatty cuts of meat(which you shouldnt avoid). The body cant process it fast enough. Eventually the body catches up
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:04 pm to scottydoesntknow
So, what are the signs or symptoms of inflammation?
Do they change or vary between eating shitty all the time vs. being "cleansed" and then reintroducing a food to see the effects?
Do they change or vary between eating shitty all the time vs. being "cleansed" and then reintroducing a food to see the effects?
Posted on 11/9/24 at 12:37 pm to KCRoyalBlue
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So, what are the signs or symptoms of inflammation? Do they change or vary between eating shitty all the time vs. being "cleansed" and then reintroducing a food to see the effects?
Its hard to tell unless youve gone a while without it. A flare up of your symptoms is the best indicator. Youll also just feel bad
Posted on 12/16/24 at 12:29 am to scottydoesntknow
Well, I've officially moved into my new apartment. It's been a long 6 weeks of moving things a few totes at a time, up 2 long flights of stairs, after working all day.
I'm going to do some unpacking after work this week to get the place a bit straightened out and then hope to start an exercise routine next week.
I'm going to do some unpacking after work this week to get the place a bit straightened out and then hope to start an exercise routine next week.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:44 am to KCRoyalBlue
Fiber, probiotics, and fermented foods would be tops on my list for the IBS and weight loss. Get a food tracker and set a protein target and fiber target. Fiber should be around 30g per day.
Fiber will feed the existing microbiota and probiotics and fermented foods will increase the diversity. Greek yogurt, kefir, kombucha, sauerkraut, etc, etc.
Fiber will feed the existing microbiota and probiotics and fermented foods will increase the diversity. Greek yogurt, kefir, kombucha, sauerkraut, etc, etc.
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