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re: I have a drinking problem. Help. ***Update Page 4***
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:25 am to lsu777
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:25 am to lsu777
quote:You have me confused with someone else. I have never been in deep ketosis, never had that as a goal and certainly never lived any such thing out on this board.
rememeber the 1st time you made it 2 weeks without carbs and got into deep ketosis...it was a big deal.
quote:With all due respect, YOU are derailing it with this lecture. I responded in a perfectly on-topic and constructive way to the OP: I advised him to take the medicine that makes drinking less appealing and enter deep therapy to mine the trauma that is causing the SYMPTOM of drinking. I also warned him about taking fully onboard the casual platitudes of AA.
stop derailing the fricking thread.
You seem to be more concerned with protecting the orthodoxy of AA. I'm concerned with the OP finding a fulsome way to address the root causes of his drinking symptoms.
quote:Well, I DO care how he does it. I want him to have the best chance at long-term success. And IMO, telling him he's always on the verge of going back to day zero is incorrect and unproductive.
nobody gives a frick how he does it,
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:48 am to King Crab
How’s it going King Crab?
You make your first month drink-free?
You make your first month drink-free?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:12 am to pwejr88
This thread got me inspired. Tomorrow will be 2 weeks without a drink. This is the longest I've gone without since I was probably 17 and that was 33 years ago.
I started working out routinely about 3 months ago and saw little weight loss. Without changing diet at all, except cutting out beer, I'm down 11 pounds in less than 2 weeks.
For the last 2-3 years I was drinking about 2500 calories a day.
I started working out routinely about 3 months ago and saw little weight loss. Without changing diet at all, except cutting out beer, I'm down 11 pounds in less than 2 weeks.
For the last 2-3 years I was drinking about 2500 calories a day.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:20 am to REB BEER
Nice, REB. Keep it up.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:50 am to REB BEER
Heck yeah! Good for you!!
As much fun as I had drinking, and there was a lot of fun before it got dark, the fun I have now isn’t even comparable. Weight loss, then muscle gain, good sleep, feeling great all day, among many others make life so much more worthwhile without the booze.
Happy for you man. Keep up the great work! It gets even better.
As much fun as I had drinking, and there was a lot of fun before it got dark, the fun I have now isn’t even comparable. Weight loss, then muscle gain, good sleep, feeling great all day, among many others make life so much more worthwhile without the booze.
Happy for you man. Keep up the great work! It gets even better.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:56 am to pwejr88
quote:
How’s it going King Crab?
You make your first month drink-free?
Still going strong. Sleep is staring to normalize which is nice.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:27 pm to King Crab
Nice. Keep at it, sleep is always a bitch for me when I have stopped. Usually takes a couple of weeks.
Root beer:
Root beer:
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:58 pm to King Crab
quote:
Sleep is staring to normalize which is nice.
Great! Keep at it!
And you’re in for the best sleep of your life if you can stay sober. It gets better gradually over time and continues to get better.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:50 pm to pennoyer
quote:
Now allow me to retort:
While not trying to thread jack or get in between this pissing contest I know my mom said that after two meetings with AA she felt like putting a bullet in her head.
She said that while AA may help some people it in no way was what she needed. She was able to get the help she needed through a very helpful therapist and my dad.
Battling addiction is like getting healthy... not all diets work for everyone and not all exercise plans work for everyone.....
Either way... i feel both of you are missing the point and need to encourage this fellow TDer....
I haven't finished this thread so I don't know if you have kept up the great work. But hopefully you are!
Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:40 pm to dupergreenie
That’s great. I hope she’s still sober.
I have learned being dry and sober are two different things. You can stop drinking and be a miserable person to be around if you don’t treat the real issue. Drinking was not my problem. Drinking was the solution to my problem and AA helps me treat it. My problem is ME. Living sober is fun and full of joy and happiness (two different things) and AA helps me cure my issues between my ears.
I have learned being dry and sober are two different things. You can stop drinking and be a miserable person to be around if you don’t treat the real issue. Drinking was not my problem. Drinking was the solution to my problem and AA helps me treat it. My problem is ME. Living sober is fun and full of joy and happiness (two different things) and AA helps me cure my issues between my ears.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:37 am to King Crab
Very inspirational thread.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:39 am to pwejr88
Aka a dry drunk.
I've been there and it's miserable and not healthy. I was at a place of miserable drinking and being a dry drunk, miserable not drinking because the only thing I was doing was... not drinking. Not working with anyone, not going to therapy, not working any kind of program or plan. It sucked
I've been there and it's miserable and not healthy. I was at a place of miserable drinking and being a dry drunk, miserable not drinking because the only thing I was doing was... not drinking. Not working with anyone, not going to therapy, not working any kind of program or plan. It sucked
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:58 am to Bama and Beer
100%. I have someone close to me like that and it’s great motivation for me. There’s help if they want it but some choose not to seek it.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:13 am to dupergreenie
quote:
While not trying to thread jack or get in between this pissing contest I know my mom said that after two meetings with AA she felt like putting a bullet in her head.
She said that while AA may help some people it in no way was what she needed.
AA is a great resource for many and has helps many, many people get and stay sober. But it is definitely not the only way - there is no "one size fits all" solution to a drinking problem.
I have been clean and sober for 2 1/2 years now and I abhor AA. It just wasn't for me. I did do a 6 week intensive outpatient program to start my sober journey, but for meetings, I went the SMART recover route. It's a non-12 step program that focuses more on behavior modification and CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) techniques to stay sober. It worked for me, but again, that may not be the answer for others. With that said, I have also attended some AA meetings and have read the Big Book and have taken away tips and tools from it as well.
Anyway, I think each person needs to find what works for them and helps them lead a happy and fulfilling life without drugs, alcohol or whatever else afflicts them.
Congrats to OP and everyone else here on their sober journey and keep it up. IWNDWYT.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:30 am to jfw3535
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
AA is also free which appeals to most people. No meds, therapists, etc.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:07 pm to pwejr88
quote:Free is good, but it's likely that those with alcohol abuse disorder symptoms really just do need therapists and/or other guides - particularly given the task of potentially mining their deepest traumas.
AA is also free which appeals to most people. No meds, therapists, etc.
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