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Have we discussed ecdysterone?

Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:48 pm
I'm probably late to the party on this but it popped up on my Google feed.

Spinach extract

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New research has examined the potential of spinach extract as an enhancer of athletic performance. The active compound in spinach extract significantly improves muscle strength, leading the study authors to recommend banning the supplement in sports.


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Ecdysterone is the main compound in spinach extract. It is a phytosteroid — that is, a steroid that occurs naturally in plants and belongs to a class called phytosterols, which are "structurally similar to cholesterol."

Previous studies in mammals have shown that ecdysteroids have a wide range of beneficial effects. In the 1980s, researchers dubbed ecdysterone the "Russian secret," following suspicions that Russian Olympic athletes were using it as a performance boosting supplement.

Other studies have demonstrated that ecdysterone "increases protein synthesis in skeletal muscle." In fact, as Prof. Parr explains, previous tests in vitro and in vivo showed that ecdysterone is more potent than other steroids banned in sports, such as methandienone.




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Results revealed that the participants who took ecdysterone had "[s]ignificantly higher increases in muscle mass." In vitro experiments replicated the findings, and Prof. Parr and colleagues showed that ecdysterone interacts with the estrogen receptor beta. The tests also revealed significant "increases in one-repetition bench press performance."
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:53 pm to


Hold up wait a minute, y'all thought I was finished?

When I bought that Aston Martin y'all thought it was rented?

Flexin' on these crackers, I'm like Popeye on his spinach
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/5/19 at 9:56 pm to
Doesn't work in humans
Posted by Vanilla Ice
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 3:38 am to
Lol
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 5:53 am to
Where do you buy quality ecdysterone? Does anyone have proven results with it? I’ve read that there were no noticeable side effects. Is that true? I’d like some input from someone that has tried it.

Thanks
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10562 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 7:03 am to
All I have seen was this recent study. 777 says it doesn't work in humans tho.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 10:01 am to
What you posted is an article, I didn't see where they linked to a study, correct menifji am wrong please with the link.

Phytosteroids and specifically ecdy was all the rage in the early 2000s, animal studies showed it worked and was specifically the reason ants are so strong vs bodyweight. Turns out humans don't process then the same way. All the products that were released based on it were duds.

Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10562 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 11:12 am to
Study abstract

That's from some kind of journal search website. Looks like it was published in May
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37977 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 11:37 am to
Man it cost $40, I hate how they do that shite.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10562 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 11:22 pm to
I'll see if my wife can get access to it.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37977 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:52 am to
I got access to it now. Main take away is that they tested the product they were using and was under dosed by 94% and only contained 6mg of ecdy.

Further study is 100% warranted and this has peaked my interest, but not willing to draw any conclusions yet. Could have been all the previous ecdy products were bunk, I dunno.


Here is a great discussion on it
LINK
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37977 posts
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:58 am to
Also FTR in that thread, Greg Nuckoles posted he was involved with a huge study on ECDY last year funded by a supplement company and it was higher dosing and much better controlled and results were dog shite and the company will not produce the results as they are not obligated too.
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