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Coconut Oil: dosage, usage, & brand
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:34 am
Posted on 3/2/18 at 1:34 am
I've altered my diet in the past month to a higher fat/lower carb style, & am trying to use more healthy fats. I use mostly butter from GF cows & EV olive oil but I'd really like to tap into the benefits of coconut oil. My search thru the net for info has produced results in a few aspects of CO that have been confusing or unclear. I've been reading this board for about a month or two and have noticed several posters who use this oil, so I thought I'd ask for some opinions.
How much CO would one recommend consuming in a day to get the benefits of the oil? Does that even matter? Mostly I've seen recommendations for 2-6 tbls which seems varied. I'm 6'4" 220 lbs if that helps
Do i need to consume whatever the optimal amount is every day? Every other day? Etc.
& what brand are people using here? My first bottle is Spectrum - naturally unrefined, virgin organic oil. It has a fairly noticeable aroma and flavor which doesn't make me that enthusiastic to eat it as I've never been huge on coconut. Do most or all brands of unrefined CO have fairly noticeable aroma and flavor?
Many thanks to those that participate on this board as there has been a good bit of interesting info being shared
How much CO would one recommend consuming in a day to get the benefits of the oil? Does that even matter? Mostly I've seen recommendations for 2-6 tbls which seems varied. I'm 6'4" 220 lbs if that helps
Do i need to consume whatever the optimal amount is every day? Every other day? Etc.
& what brand are people using here? My first bottle is Spectrum - naturally unrefined, virgin organic oil. It has a fairly noticeable aroma and flavor which doesn't make me that enthusiastic to eat it as I've never been huge on coconut. Do most or all brands of unrefined CO have fairly noticeable aroma and flavor?
Many thanks to those that participate on this board as there has been a good bit of interesting info being shared
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Posted on 3/2/18 at 5:19 am to Pragmatic PiG
Don't go out of your way to consume CO. When I started Keto I would load up on all sorts of fats and feel the need to consume all sorts of things. 13 months and 110# later I just listen to my body.
If you need energy boost on low carb, go with MCT oil, otherwise you are good using any organic virgin coconut oil. MCT oil breaks down into ketones in one step in the liver and is a good source for immediate energy- love to put this in BP coffee and Turmeric tea.
If you need energy boost on low carb, go with MCT oil, otherwise you are good using any organic virgin coconut oil. MCT oil breaks down into ketones in one step in the liver and is a good source for immediate energy- love to put this in BP coffee and Turmeric tea.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 6:34 am to Pragmatic PiG
Go with MCT oil. Like the other poster said, listen to your body and it’ll tell you what you need. I’ve dropped 19# in 7 weeks onthe samediet + intermittent fasting. I also feel so much better.
Posted on 3/2/18 at 7:54 am to Pragmatic PiG
Random musings about coconut oil (procrastinating work):
CO is of course almost all saturated fat. the demonization of saturated fats has been debunked. however, there are still potential issues for some people. I follow Dr. Phinney's work and analysis on this, Rhonda Patrick is another good resource (she's really into the genetic aspects).
Phinney describes (in scientific detail) nutritional ketosis as an island on which it's not only safe but healthy to consume saturated fat, and potentially lots of it. However, if you aren't fat adapted, there can be issues. Saturated fat + high carb seems to be a pretty big no-no.
Also, people with the APOE4 gene may have some issues with SF. I am still researching all of this and don't want to offer any amateur opinions on its importance, but it is interesting stuff.
Of course, you've read about the instant energy benefits of medium-chain triglycerides or else we probably wouldn't even be talking about CO (which is made up of 2/3 MCT).
I've been trying to up my monounsaturated fats and Omega 3 PUFA, reduce my Omega 6 PUFA, and moderate saturated fats (sort of, "just in case")--that doesn't mean I don't chow down on red meat and eggs damned near every day, but when trying to add protein-free fat to stay within strong-ketosis macros, I err on the side of O3 and MUFA.
All that said, I do often take a tiny shot of coconut or MCT oil to break my fast while I'm cooking or just need some energy and don't feel like eating (it's amazing how little food i need when in ketosis). I just use the Carrington Farms unflavored liquid stuff you can get at walmart for $13 per big bottle. It isn't "organic" or special. Hope I'm not poisoning myself.
CO is of course almost all saturated fat. the demonization of saturated fats has been debunked. however, there are still potential issues for some people. I follow Dr. Phinney's work and analysis on this, Rhonda Patrick is another good resource (she's really into the genetic aspects).
Phinney describes (in scientific detail) nutritional ketosis as an island on which it's not only safe but healthy to consume saturated fat, and potentially lots of it. However, if you aren't fat adapted, there can be issues. Saturated fat + high carb seems to be a pretty big no-no.
Also, people with the APOE4 gene may have some issues with SF. I am still researching all of this and don't want to offer any amateur opinions on its importance, but it is interesting stuff.
Of course, you've read about the instant energy benefits of medium-chain triglycerides or else we probably wouldn't even be talking about CO (which is made up of 2/3 MCT).
I've been trying to up my monounsaturated fats and Omega 3 PUFA, reduce my Omega 6 PUFA, and moderate saturated fats (sort of, "just in case")--that doesn't mean I don't chow down on red meat and eggs damned near every day, but when trying to add protein-free fat to stay within strong-ketosis macros, I err on the side of O3 and MUFA.
All that said, I do often take a tiny shot of coconut or MCT oil to break my fast while I'm cooking or just need some energy and don't feel like eating (it's amazing how little food i need when in ketosis). I just use the Carrington Farms unflavored liquid stuff you can get at walmart for $13 per big bottle. It isn't "organic" or special. Hope I'm not poisoning myself.
This post was edited on 3/2/18 at 7:55 am
Posted on 3/2/18 at 12:17 pm to Pragmatic PiG
I can't offer much information but will say that I get some sort of Coconut Oil from the Organic aisle at the grocery store and put about a teaspoon in my smoothie about twice/week.
It's one of those items that people say is good for you so I try to consume it here and there.
It's one of those items that people say is good for you so I try to consume it here and there.
Posted on 3/4/18 at 1:33 am to FatMan
I decided to give MCT oil a shot, Asprey's stuff is pretty pricey so I'm taking a hard pass at that but I bought some from piping rocks, a 60/40 blend of caprylic & capric acid, hopefully my body will tolerate it.
I do still want to consume CO though as Lauric acid (that is extracted to create MCT oil) seems to have some health benefits that are attractive.
Btw, Congrats on your weight loss
I do still want to consume CO though as Lauric acid (that is extracted to create MCT oil) seems to have some health benefits that are attractive.
Btw, Congrats on your weight loss
Posted on 3/4/18 at 1:47 am to McLemore
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Also, people with the APOE4 gene may have some issues with SF.
By "issues" would that mean a person would be feeling shitty in the short term or is that referring to more long term effect?
I've been consuming increased levels of SF for a bit now & my body has not really complained at all, so I'm taking that as a good sign.
Thanks for the Phinney & Patrick reference. I'll check those out.
quote:
Hope I'm not poisoning myself.
Me too
Posted on 3/4/18 at 1:55 am to Pragmatic PiG
I cook most my food in coconut oil
Great stuff
Great stuff
Posted on 3/4/18 at 6:46 am to Pragmatic PiG
From the little bit I've read I think it's more long term/lipid panel stuff. Like increased triglycerides (over HDL). But i seriously haven't looked into it much.
And Phinney's "island" metaphor had something to do with swimming in a sea of uncertainty with SF until you reach the island of nutritional ketosis--the fat-->ketone conversion eliminates dangers for most people. I'm not sure where he writes about this particular metaphor. It was in a presentation. I'll find and post.
And Phinney's "island" metaphor had something to do with swimming in a sea of uncertainty with SF until you reach the island of nutritional ketosis--the fat-->ketone conversion eliminates dangers for most people. I'm not sure where he writes about this particular metaphor. It was in a presentation. I'll find and post.
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