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Arthur Jones: HIT Advocate
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:37 pm
1970s pioneer that created the Nautilus and Hammer Strength equipment lines.
This guy was a huge proponent of 1-3 sets exercises per body part total to failure as the best way to train. Less than a hour total in the gym no more than 2-3x per week on non-consecutive days.
He even states that the proper application of weight lifting is better for improving the human cardiovascular condition moreso than running could ever do by itself.
He was a part of the Colorado Experiment with Casey Viator when Viator put on a shitload of muscle mass. Jones went from 144 to 162.
Mentzer, Yates and Robinson were HIT bodybuilders.
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This guy was a huge proponent of 1-3 sets exercises per body part total to failure as the best way to train. Less than a hour total in the gym no more than 2-3x per week on non-consecutive days.
He even states that the proper application of weight lifting is better for improving the human cardiovascular condition moreso than running could ever do by itself.
He was a part of the Colorado Experiment with Casey Viator when Viator put on a shitload of muscle mass. Jones went from 144 to 162.
Mentzer, Yates and Robinson were HIT bodybuilders.
Full Seminar
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 7:26 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:13 am to Blutarsky
I believe this style of training is underutilized. Overall, I think the research shows it generally provides similar gains compared to higher volume training, though it's possible there is a small advantage to higher volume. But that advantage comes at the expense of time. I believe you could easily complete a full body HIT workout in 30 minutes, which are done 1 or 2 times a week. This is compared to 2-4 hours with a standard program. For busy people this is huge and reason enough for people to try it.
I do something similar though I do a 4 day split similar to Yates and usually do 2 working sets of the main lift of the day and 1 of the supplemental lifts. But I have a good amount of time and enjoy going to the gym. I have made the most gains of my life with this style of programming.
The main caveat to this training is that you really must be able to fail without risking injury. Generally people use machines with this program, hence Arthur Jones inventing the Nautilus machine. I think this is especially true for lower body movements. You do not want to have a back squat or a deadlift in this program.
I do something similar though I do a 4 day split similar to Yates and usually do 2 working sets of the main lift of the day and 1 of the supplemental lifts. But I have a good amount of time and enjoy going to the gym. I have made the most gains of my life with this style of programming.
The main caveat to this training is that you really must be able to fail without risking injury. Generally people use machines with this program, hence Arthur Jones inventing the Nautilus machine. I think this is especially true for lower body movements. You do not want to have a back squat or a deadlift in this program.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:29 am to NewOrleansBlend
I’m going to supplement my training with a 2 day per week full body HIT program: Sunday & Thursday. Toss in some after workout swimming each day.
Trying to figure out which machines to utilize for each body part.
Trying to figure out which machines to utilize for each body part.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:01 pm to Blutarsky
I started using the Jay cutler template for working sets/reps lately and I like it.
I lift 3 days a week (2 upper and 1 lower). Each workout is 18 to 21 total sets. Each working set is 12 reps. I'm done in 45 minutes and and recover in a day. Do walking on off days. At 49 I'm maininging mass/strength and not beating myself up like I used to chasing big numbers with heavy weight
I lift 3 days a week (2 upper and 1 lower). Each workout is 18 to 21 total sets. Each working set is 12 reps. I'm done in 45 minutes and and recover in a day. Do walking on off days. At 49 I'm maininging mass/strength and not beating myself up like I used to chasing big numbers with heavy weight
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:13 pm to Blutarsky
Jones was a weird guy. Way ahead of his time. HIT doesn't work for everyone though. I think Arnold went to his compound in Florida for like 2 weeks and didn't take to to training very well. Vince Gironda was another weirdo that was way ahead of his time with an opposite style training method from Jones. I think both were too smart for their own good really. Decent amount of content about Arthur Jones on YouTube. Some really interesting thoughts/ideas/principles on training by him.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:28 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
I started using the Jay cutler template for working sets/reps lately and I like it.
I lift 3 days a week (2 upper and 1 lower). Each workout is 18 to 21 total sets. Each working set is 12 reps. I'm done in 45 minutes and and recover in a day. Do walking on off days. At 49 I'm maininging mass/strength and not beating myself up like I used to chasing big numbers with heavy weight
Can you give more details about your routine? TIA
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:41 pm to Red Foreman
Example of upper body day
Warmup
Couple warmup sets
Incline DB press. (3x12 at a weight where you nearly fail on 3rd set)
Slight decline Db press (3x12}
Flies (can do cable or dbs on a bench (3x12)
Tricep pull downs (3x12)
Tricep Kickbacks (3x12)
Pushups (3x12 1 set wide/1 set close /1 set medium)
5 sets of farmer carries with kettlebels (45 seconds each with 30 sec rest)
Warmup
Couple warmup sets
Incline DB press. (3x12 at a weight where you nearly fail on 3rd set)
Slight decline Db press (3x12}
Flies (can do cable or dbs on a bench (3x12)
Tricep pull downs (3x12)
Tricep Kickbacks (3x12)
Pushups (3x12 1 set wide/1 set close /1 set medium)
5 sets of farmer carries with kettlebels (45 seconds each with 30 sec rest)
Posted on 5/31/23 at 2:52 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Warmup
Couple warmup sets
Incline DB press. (3x12 at a weight where you nearly fail on 3rd set)
Slight decline Db press (3x12}
Flies (can do cable or dbs on a bench (3x12)
Tricep pull downs (3x12)
Tricep Kickbacks (3x12)
Pushups (3x12 1 set wide/1 set close /1 set medium)
5 sets of farmer carries with kettlebels (45 seconds each with 30 sec rest)
Arthur Jones scowls at this routine
Posted on 5/31/23 at 3:31 pm to NewOrleansBlend
Non-linear increase in hypertrophy the closer you train to failure
New metaanalysis showing that training to failure promotes non-linear increases in hypertrophy. Strength gains were not affected by how close to failure you train however
New metaanalysis showing that training to failure promotes non-linear increases in hypertrophy. Strength gains were not affected by how close to failure you train however
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:16 pm to NewOrleansBlend
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:26 pm to gizmoflak
That was great thanks for sharing that.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:49 pm to ronricks
Did a full body 30-10-30 routine today. I was feeling out starting weights so it’ll be adjusted next time.
Each set starts with a 30 sec negative, 10 regular reps followed by another 30 second negative. Weight should be around 80% of something you could normally hit for 10 reps.
Each movement was 2 sets of the 30-10-30.
Seated Machine Chest Press
Machine Flys
Machine Tricep Extensions
Machine Curls
Seated Machine Shoulder Press
Seated Machine Lateral Raise
Leg Extension
Seated Leg Curls
Calf Raises
Seated V-Bar Cable Rows
MAG Bar Lat Pull-downs
Hack Squats
A little over an hour since I was trying to figure out what to do..
I’ll probably ditch the hack squats and try to be more intense with the Extensions and Curls.
Each set starts with a 30 sec negative, 10 regular reps followed by another 30 second negative. Weight should be around 80% of something you could normally hit for 10 reps.
Each movement was 2 sets of the 30-10-30.
Seated Machine Chest Press
Machine Flys
Machine Tricep Extensions
Machine Curls
Seated Machine Shoulder Press
Seated Machine Lateral Raise
Leg Extension
Seated Leg Curls
Calf Raises
Seated V-Bar Cable Rows
MAG Bar Lat Pull-downs
Hack Squats
A little over an hour since I was trying to figure out what to do..
I’ll probably ditch the hack squats and try to be more intense with the Extensions and Curls.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 9:57 am
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