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re: Anyone do a plant based diet?

Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:01 am to
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:01 am to
I’m pretty sure you ignore everything I say already,which is fine.I still can’t believe that the Keto diet is healthy except for a few certain people with a different genetic makeup.
The Masai live on mostly milk and cow blood with high cholesterol intake and are very healthy with very little heart disease.They also don’t have lactose intolerance with is extremely common in most blacks.
Harvard Medical School as reported in Harvard Health Publishing considers the keto diet to have serious risks such as nutrient deficiency,liver and kidney problems.
“The research continues to show that healthy carbohydrates-fruits,vegetables,beans and whole grains are the healthiest fuel for our bodies”quote by Hana Kahleova,M.D.,Ph.D- director of clinical research for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.
Another recent study published by the Lancet found that people who consume animal based,low carbohydrate diets have a shorter life expectancy compared with those who consume more carbohydrates and/ or more plant based sources of protein or fat.
Dr.Esselsteyn caught a lot of grief for his advocacy for vegetarian diet but he has documented proof that it works -coronary angiograms before and after following his diet.
His diet is brutal,to be sure,as it is the strictest of all.Pretty sure I would have to be on death’s door to follow it.
Search the Internet and one can find plenty of advocates for the keto diet and studies that show it to be beneficial to health.I guess one should read all the different opinions and decide for yourself.
I myself was influenced by an outstanding cardiologist ( lot smarter than me) who had a particular interest in nutrition,which is rare in doctors.He was a disciple of Campbell,Esselstyn et.al.He seriously tried to help his patients improve their health through diet rather than just put them on a lot of meds.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63659 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:53 am to
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My personal belief is that a little meat is ok,most Americans eat too much of it .


Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:45 am to
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I’m effectively meatless for ethical reasons.
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
798 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:40 pm to
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I'm not really referencing this board, more so the OT, but I always get a kick out of people shitting on vegetarians/vegans over there while pounding bourbon and eating smothered cajun dishes.


This is as vegan as it gets.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:54 pm to
So a plant based diet is all veggies, fruits, and a little meat? But no butter, oils, etc? I’d be interested in this, I assume I can still eat venison and fish I catch, but meat from store is a no no? I’d like a little more information if possible. Butter and olive oil might be a deal breaker because I use those quite a bit
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4936 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:55 am to
Dr.Esselstyn’s diet allows no oils,nuts or meat of any kind .it’s brutal but he has documented evidence that blockages in coronary arteries cleared out to a large extent.I think the only one that could actually follow that are people with in-operable coronary artery disease and they either do it or die.
Butter is better than margarine but we use it sparingly.I buy butter/canola oil blend.
Olive oil is good and is actually considered heart healthy.Other good oils are canola,avocado and peanut oil.I eat 1 1/2 oz.nuts daily.
We don’t eat beef,mostly just venison,fish ,chicken a few times a year.
I guess if I get too old to deer hunt I’ll buy grass fed beef.Factory beef that’s been through feedlots is not heathy,they are loaded up with corn which gives their meat a high omega 6 fatty acid level.They also feed them dried pig blood,and some feed chicken litter(chicken shite) if there are chicken houses close.
I’ll get downvotes but whatever.I took care of people with heart attacks,bypass surgery and angioplasty for years.I prefer to avoid all that plus the frkken medical merry go round of cardiology checkups ,heart meds,etc.
Life is all about choices.I’ve had people tell me if they can’t eat what they want they’d rather be dead.That’s their right.




Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 12:05 pm to
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r.Esselstyn’s diet allows no oils,nuts or meat of any kin


What’s the deal with nuts? Thought it was healthy fats?

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Other good oils are canola,avocado and peanut oil


I thought canola oil was unhealthy

So he doesn’t believe in even eating fish or venison?
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38338 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Dr.Esselsteyn caught a lot of grief for his advocacy for vegetarian diet but he has documented proof that it works -coronary angiograms before and after following his diet.
His diet is brutal,to be sure,as it is the strictest of all.Pretty sure I would have to be on death’s door to follow it.
I eat pretty close to his recommendations but I don't limit nuts and seeds and I don't remember his stance on fruit but I eat a lot of fruit as well. I've been at it for a couple years now so it's gotten to be second nature and I enjoy it now but it's fair to say the transition was challenging.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63659 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 12:42 pm to
That Canola oil isn't doing you any favors. Peanut oil isn't good either.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4936 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:18 am to
I haven’t read about canola or peanut oil in a good while.I did some quick research and apparently canola and peanut oil aren’t considered as healthy as they once were.Guess I was wrong about that.
We fry fish 2-3 times a year,also fry deer steak maybe 3-4 times a year,fry in peanut oil.Peanut oil is high in Vit E so that is one benefit
We eat broiled fish or grilled blackstrap quite a bit.Stir-fry or saute’d vegetables it’s olive oil .Even then,not all olive oil is beneficial,has to be extra virgin oil.
One oil I’m conflicted about is coconut oil( we don’t use it),it’s highly saturated.For every article I read that it is bad there is another article that it’s good.Looks too much like that Crisco my mother always used so I don’t buy it.
I don’t eat 100% healthy but I’m 70,wife is 68 and neither of us are on any meds,BP is normal so I think we’re doing ok.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:45 am to
Thanks for the input fat boy.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3758 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:58 am to
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We fry fish 2-3 times a year,also fry deer steak maybe 3-4 times a year,fry in peanut oil.


Using canola or peanut oil this frequently should have such a negligible effect on your health that it’s not even worth worrying over. Live a little. Fry fish as god intended…in peanut oil
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:04 am to
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Fry fish as god intended…in peanut oil


I agree, I just wish God would make it a little cheaper. If I’m frying a lot I buy peanut oil, but it just fry some for wife and I, I don’t wanna spend a lot of money on oil for a small batch and I’ll use vegetable oil. I only fry fish 1-2 a month though.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 9:46 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63659 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:22 am to
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I haven’t read about canola or peanut oil in a good while.I did some quick research and apparently canola and peanut oil aren’t considered as healthy as they once were.Guess I was wrong about that.
We fry fish 2-3 times a year,also fry deer steak maybe 3-4 times a year,fry in peanut oil.Peanut oil is high in Vit E so that is one benefit
We eat broiled fish or grilled blackstrap quite a bit.Stir-fry or saute’d vegetables it’s olive oil .Even then,not all olive oil is beneficial,has to be extra virgin oil.
One oil I’m conflicted about is coconut oil( we don’t use it),it’s highly saturated.For every article I read that it is bad there is another article that it’s good.Looks too much like that Crisco my mother always used so I don’t buy it.
I don’t eat 100% healthy but I’m 70,wife is 68 and neither of us are on any meds,BP is normal so I think we’re doing ok.


Your information about seed oils is at about 20 years out-of-date. Canola oil and peanut oil are not healthy at all. In fact, they have adverse health effects.

You should not be conflicted about coconut oil. It is healthy.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63659 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:23 am to
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Using canola or peanut oil this frequently should have such a negligible effect on your health that it’s not even worth worrying over. Live a little. Fry fish as god intended…in peanut oil


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63659 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:23 am to
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IslandBuckeye


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