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re: Anybody try to take seed oils out of your diet....virtually impossible

Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:08 pm to
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You can’t make a coherent point and grovel back and forth from post to post


Again, I don't know what you're reading
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:08 pm to
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you likely won't see consequences on a 2000 cal jellybean/ Twinkie diet, but likely not a good idea long term.


Why is that?
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:11 pm to
Most people eat more than 2000 cal a day. So eating 2000 cal of jelly beans will result in weight loss which should improve most blood markers. So, good in the short term.

Long term, you're missing protein, vitamins, minerals, and fiber. You'll eventually become malnourished

Please remind me again how retarded I am
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Long term, you're missing protein, vitamins, minerals, and fiber. You'll eventually become malnourished


Sigh
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:26 pm to
You could just explain how what I've said is wrong. Please address my words, and not the straw man you've created in your head.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:27 pm to
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You could just explain how what I've said is wrong. Please address my words, and not the straw man you've created in your head.


I have like half a dozen times then you change your argument or make no point at all
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36423 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:28 pm to
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It’s an extremely simple question, if protein and calories are equated, does food quality matter? Yes or no?


no, not for most people. if you have everything else in order, are under 15% bodyfat then sure we can talk about maximizing but other wise no it doesnt. plenty of studies show that. stop ignoring them.
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:29 pm to
No, you're just making up things to help you articulate your point. No where have I said that food quality doesn't matter if calories are equated. You've fabricated this and ran with it
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:31 pm to
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No where have I said that food quality doesn't matter if calories are equated


Then how can seed oils not be harmful

Food quality either matters or it doesn’t. What is a main ingredient in all the foods one would define as “bad?”
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:32 pm to
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no, not for most people. if you have everything else in order, are under 15% bodyfat then sure we can talk about maximizing but other wise no it doesnt. plenty of studies show that. stop ignoring them.


Yeah, most people are obese and would benefit from any type of caloric restriction
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:33 pm to
Because all available evidence indicates that unsaturated fats are better for cardiovascular health than saturated fats. Please address this directly and don't jump back to all processed foods

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:33 pm to
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. if you have everything else in order,


Like your metabolic health? If you feel like shite and have metabolic distinction this is a lot harder to do
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Because all available evidence indicates that unsaturated fats are better for cardiovascular health than saturated fats.


No it doesn’t

I guess if you subscribe to all the data sponsored by big pharma and the corn lobby it does
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36423 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Like your metabolic health? If you feel like shite and have metabolic distinction this is a lot harder to do




making shite up

show the studies that have participants in a slight caloric deficit causing metabolic disorders or damage

please fricking do

you are just making shite up.

its not fricking hard...eat in a caloric deficit, eat 1g protein per lbs of bw, lift weights 3x per week progressively, walk 8k steps per day and you have 95% of being in perfect health covered.

metabolic health :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:40 pm to
All you have to do is provide any evidence.

LINK

Here's a meta analysis that includes 54 trials. I guess they're all big pharma or the corn lobby.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:40 pm to
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show the studies that have participants in a slight caloric deficit causing metabolic disorders or damage


I can’t, you still just don’t get it. Thermodynamics always wins, but how we get to that concept varies widely and is important. I’ve explained this to you 100 times.

I don’t know the answer to this, and neither do you, but why have instances of some cancers (particularly in young people) and metabolic diseases and allergies increased so much. Part of the reason, OF COURSE, is they’re just fatter. No doubt, but many of these diseases and disorders have outpaced the increase in obesity. So why?

I think we can all agree we are eating worse quality food full of pesticides and other chemicals. MAYBE, just maybe, that has something to do with it. Are there empirical peer reviewed studies for that? Of course not, for a lot of reasons. Some nefarious, some not. But just use your brain and your eyes man.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
35890 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Here's a meta analysis that includes 54 trials. I guess they're all big pharma or the corn lobby.


Most of them, yes

Not to mention most of that is a decade or more old
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
289 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:43 pm to
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you are just making shite up.


The truth
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36423 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:45 pm to
and for the record all of the new data suggest seed oils are anti inflamatory

LINK


stop making shite up with fricking terms like metabolic health trying to get a rise out of people who dont know better
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36423 posts
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:47 pm to
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how we get to that concept varies widely

no it doesnt vary widely

quote:

is important


no it isnt....we have covered this 100 times and i have provided dozens upon dozens of studies to prove you wrong

yet you claim I dont get it and I am just dumb and you are the smart one

all the doctors, all the data and lil ole LSU777 is just wrong and mingo is correct.
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