re: Anybody try to take seed oils out of your diet....virtually impossible

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at some point just got to focus on counting calories and protein

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Yes, but it’s certainly possible that eating a bunch of seed oils has a big impact on how many calories you can eat. Pretty compelling evidence on it fricking up your gut health and hormonal responses that have a huge effect on your bodies ability to use energy.

As I tell you every time, it’s not as simple as you want it to be. What you’re saying is “all you need is gas for your car to run.” While that statement is true, if you use shitty gas to run the engine, shitty oil to maintain it, and drive it like you stole it, yes it will run, but not well.

It’s not just one source, every time this comes up no one can point to anything other than some vibes and feels about big Ag and the seminal irrefutable cornerstone is the McDonalds French fry. I don’t even cook with or eat a lot of seed oils, but it’s obvious this is rationalization by people who want to consume a lot of bacon grease and ribeyes. Nothing wrong with that, just don’t make up some pseudo-scientific boogeyman to justify your preference.

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Yes, but it’s certainly possible that eating a bunch of seed oils has a big impact on how many calories you can eat. Pretty compelling evidence on it fricking up your gut health and hormonal responses that have a huge effect on your bodies ability to use energy.

As I tell you every time, it’s not as simple as you want it to be. What you’re saying is “all you need is gas for your car to run.” While that statement is true, if you use shitty gas to run the engine, shitty oil to maintain it, and drive it like you stole it, yes it will run, but not well.

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i said i dont think seed oils are good for you but they arent the boogieman people make them out to be and as far as compelling evidence we also have studies showing using canola oil helped people lose weight and improve blood markers

my point was....if you was eating like you should...seed oils shouldnt be that big of a deal

for example if i or you go home after work, throw a couple chicken breast or steaks on the grill and cook some white rice and asparagus to go with it.....there arent any seed oils

point was if you are making good choice....not much chance to have seed oils. I didnt read whole thread but i did read about having to read labels of this or that...but if i grab a bag of potatoes, bag of rice, bunch of fruit, couple different veggies, bunch of different meats and eggs....well not much chance to get seed oils and the things i listed in my other post should make up 90% of your diet anyways

you say its not as simple as I want it to be...it kind of is. I mean for someone like you who already has the big boxes checked....it might not be but for most...just weigh the damn food, count your protein...get your 8k steps in and lift 3 hours a week hard. if you arent losing after 2 weeks lower the calories or add 3 hours of zone 2 per week.

shite is not that hard.

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So your point is if you aren’t eating seed oils then seed oils shouldn’t be that big of a deal?

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my point was....wtf are yall eating that seed oils are such a big deal?

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Your inability to understand the extremely simple concept of what you put in your body could have a very big impact on how your body functions is insane

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you think its an inability to understand what is going on at the cellular level when its actually the opposite. I do understand it and have seen it play out in real life.....your ability to overcomplicate the extremely simple concept is insane

it really comes down to exactly what I said. all the other shite is noise and overcomplication majoring in the minors....but do whatever, I dont care

for you it doesnt matter but for most...they worry about stupid shite like this and never get the big boxes checked and give up because they think its so complicated.

it really fricking isnt that complicated. we have a million studies showing that but yall want to use feelings and other bullshite.

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i said i dont think seed oils are good for you but they arent the boogieman people make them out to be and as far as compelling evidence we also have studies showing using canola oil helped people lose weight and improve blood markers

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I think most of the negatives are just that they're calorie dense and normally packaged in pretty crappy foods. Nothing to fear if you monitor calories and eat whole foods

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Nothing to fear if you monitor calories and eat whole foods

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Whole foods don’t contain seed oils

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So you don't use oil to saute vegetables or cook egg?

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I typically try not to, but trace amounts obviously aren’t going to instakill you. Just like having a glass of wine every once in a while is fine, but drinking a bottle every night isn’t. This really isn’t complicated.

You’ve fundamentally shifted your argument

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So you don't use oil to saute vegetables or cook egg?

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i dont use oil usually. Ill use butter or ghee or tallow if need be.

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When calories are equated. If you overeat on anything, you're going to have issues

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There’s pretty decent evidence that eating 2k calories of shite and 2k calories of good foods will lead to different results. By definition if eating shite foods affects how many calories you can eat, they’re bad for you. If they’re less satiating, they’re bad for you. Etc. again, this isn’t that complicated

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Yes, little Debbie cakes contain seed oils and are bad for you. I'd like someone to explain how almonds roasted with seed oils are also bad.

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Ah, now I see you are just a dumbass. Damn