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Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Oh grammar is not my strong suit. Neither is spelling! I love spell check!
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:we have pretty good data, especially for a 62+ year old diabetic.
The fact that we don’t know this is critically important.
quote:You saying “nuh uh” isn’t really compelling. The fact that you made it about necessity rather than a risk benefit analysis, together with the commentary I’ve seen from you on the issue that typically lacks substance is what bright me back to that. I could be wrong about your underlying motives, but you’ve done little to provide any evidence that I am.
once you assigned that thought process to me, I directly refuted it, and you brought it back to that again.
quote:how about conclusive data that you should
as there is conclusive data that I shouldn’t
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:09 pm to jose
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Oh grammar is not my strong suit. Neither is spelling! I love spell check!
It has nothing to do with grammar. Stick to giving flu shots, it’s seemingly all you’re qualified for.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:10 pm to WDE24
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rather than a risk benefit analysis
That’s exactly what I made it about
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I could be wrong about your underlying motives,
Well for the third time, you are. You refusing to acknowledge it is your cognitive dissonance and I can’t fix that
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:11 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Do you take any supplements? Do you drink protein shakes? Do you take vitamins? With this argument, I sure hope you don’t because in your eyes this is cheating!
But you still haven’t answered this question.
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It has nothing to do with grammar. Stick to giving flu shots, it’s seemingly all you’re qualified for
Damnit. That’s the nurses jobs. Guess I need to go back to school.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:12 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:No it isn’t.
That’s exactly what I made it about
quote:Again, your self serving statements in contradiction to the rest of your comments on the subject are not convincing.
Well for the third time, you are.
You repeatedly avoid substantive discussion for ad hom attacks and diversions and cite made up stats.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:15 pm to WDE24
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Again, your self serving statements in contradiction to the rest of your comments on the subject are not convincing.
No it’s not. I don’t give a frick about whether someone classifies it as “cheating,” in fact I think the argument is retarded and unnecessary. I give a frick that we are continuing to put people on pharmaceutical interventions, in the case with GLPs likely for a lifetime, that one, haven’t worked, and two, have unknown long term risks when we KNOW there are nonpharmaceutical interventions that work 100% of the time when adhered to.
I don’t know how to make it anymore clear than that, but you’ll just stick your head up your arse and say “NU UH I DONT BELIEVE YOU” like a 5 year old
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:17 pm to jose
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But you still haven’t answered this question.
I generally do not, but I also have the ability to delineate the difference between an iron supplement and GLP therapy
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Guess I need to go back to school.
Seemingly a lost cause at this point. Again, hopefully you are at least getting rich
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:20 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:They work for thousands of people. What evidence are you referencing that they don’t work?
put people on pharmaceutical interventions, in the case with GLPs likely for a lifetime, that one, haven’t worked
quote:We have good data on these, not perfect, but enough to know that the benefits for a 60+ year old, type 2 diabetic far outweigh any likely risk.
two, have unknown long term risks
quote:GLP 1s can be a useful tool to help with adherence to these interventions.
there are nonpharmaceutical interventions that work 100% of the time when adhered to.
Again, you are proving a bias by making up stats to support your bias.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:21 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I generally do not, but I also have the ability to delineate the difference between an iron supplement and GLP therapy
No that’s not the direction I was going with it and you know that. I’m not talking about people who suffer from iron deficiency anemia.
Let me try again. Do you supplement your protein intake with shakes? Because you could just eat extra protein.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:23 pm to WDE24
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They work for thousands of people. What evidence are you referencing that they don’t work?
We’ve used pharmaceutical du jour for 3 decades and people have gotten fatter and fatter
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We have good data on these
Not that I’ve seen
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enough to know that the benefits for a 60+ year old, type 2 diabetic far outweigh any likely risk.
You’re repeating this like it’s what I said
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Again, you are proving a bias by making up stats to support your bias.
I haven’t but even so, it’s an internet message board not a dissertation
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:25 pm to jose
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Do you supplement your protein intake with shakes?
Generally no, like I already said. You just don’t like the answer. But I can also understand the difference between supplementing a macronutrient from hormone therapy. I’m truly flabbergasted at just at fricking retarded and reductive you are
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:30 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:You lump all pharmaceuticals together and avoid substantive discussion on the glp 1 and then insult others as reductive and unintelligent. Give me a break.
We’ve used pharmaceutical du jour for 3 decades and people have gotten fatter and fatter
quote:It is out there. Spend some time educating yourself rather than viewing everything through your bias against apparently all pharmaceuticals.
Not that I’ve seen
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You’re repeating this like it’s what I said
This conversation started because of your comment in response to me saying that a 60 year old type2 diabetic might be a good candidate for a glp1 if he struggles to lose weight and maintain his diet.
quote:Feel free to cite the 95% number you stated earlier.
I haven’t
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:31 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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But I can also understand the difference between supplementing a macronutrient from hormone therapy.
I love arguing with you.
Valid point, but not the original point I was arguing to you actually. You were saying it’s an easy route because it’s not needed.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:36 pm to WDE24
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You lump all pharmaceuticals together
Yes and no. We’ve seen that patients who use pharmaceuticals to lose weight do a really bad job of keeping the weight off. How are GLP’s going to be any different in that they’re either going to have to be a lifelong intervention or their success rate is going to be short and unsustained?
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outs out there. Spend some time educating yourself rather than viewing everything through your bias against apparently all pharmaceuticals.
I have, I haven’t been able to find it. Post it and I’m happy to read it.
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This conversation started because of your comment in response to me saying that a 60 year old type2 diabetic might be a good candidate for a glp1 if he struggles to lose weight and maintain his diet.
And quickly moved on from there, but it’s what you’re fixated on because you have nothing else. Like I said, it’s not needed for 95% of its users. He may be in the 5%. I haven’t opined on that either way. More of you assigning my thoughts to fit your personal narrative
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:37 pm to jose
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You were saying it’s an easy route because it’s not needed.
I don’t even know what you are trying to say here
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don’t even know what you are trying to say here
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In the short term, they are helping people do something that they could already do.
Right here. You can acknowledge they help. But say you shouldn’t bc you can do it without them.
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:43 pm to jose
You’re still making no sense… unsurprisingly
Posted on 7/22/25 at 12:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
That’s a fair way to bow out.
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