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re: Who’s Keegan picking, anyone wanna pick his 6?
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:25 pm to CatfishJohn
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:25 pm to CatfishJohn
Cantlay is a psycho who probably has dead bodies in his freezer.
But he’s our psycho and I’d rather he be on our side.
He drives opponents crazy.
But he’s our psycho and I’d rather he be on our side.
He drives opponents crazy. 
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:32 pm to ell_13
quote:
Cantlay is a psycho who probably has dead bodies in his freezer.
But he’s our psycho and I’d rather he be on our side. He drives opponents crazy.
Exactly. And he's playing well and good in Ryder Cups.
BUT
I HATE watching him play, even in Ryder Cups I have a hard time. I want to bring a battle axe to his ankles every time he rocks back and forth 30 times.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:44 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:People keep saying that.
Morikawa is crap right now and in a bad head space. I think this was EASILY the worst pick by Captain Keegan.
He’s missed two cuts all year, Scottish Open and The Open. Outside of that he’s been solid all year.
Top 20 10 of 16 tournaments, 2nd twice and top 10 4 times.
You guys are acting like he’s some hack, and he’s got better results and stats than anyone not named Keegan Bradley that isn’t on the team. Who I’d have been fine with him leaving off for Keegan to play.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 1:45 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:I like the way you think
I want to bring a battle axe to his ankles every time he rocks back and forth 30 times.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 2:53 pm to SingleMalt1973
Not really. No Fowler, Spieth, Clark or Brooks who were all terrible.
Scottie was also really bad.
The rest at least put up some points.
Scottie was also really bad.
The rest at least put up some points.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 3:58 pm to STLhog
Colt was interviewing Keegan this afternoon. Keegan said everyone was emotional. Burns cried as did a few others. However, Cantlay said something like, “ok, great. I will talk to you tomorrow.” then he hung up.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:16 pm to TDTOM
Patty Ice.
Pace of play aside, the fact that anyone is doubting this dude after what he did in 2023 blows my mind.
His Ryder cup win percentage is 70%. No chance you leave him at home right now.
Pace of play aside, the fact that anyone is doubting this dude after what he did in 2023 blows my mind.
His Ryder cup win percentage is 70%. No chance you leave him at home right now.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:20 pm to llfshoals
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He’s missed two cuts all year
To be completely fair, it’s a lot harder for these guys to miss cuts now with the number of limited field events they play in. Xander didn’t miss a cut all year and it was by far his worst year in recent memory.
Morikawa played in 5 full field events and missed the cut in 2 of them. Not exactly the amazing stat we thought it was.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:53 am to Dawgsontop34
quote:Well considering how many missed cuts in “watered down” fields yeah, it is. Shows consistency. Again nobody in consideration who didn’t get in did better.
Morikawa played in 5 full field events and missed the cut in 2 of them. Not exactly the amazing stat we thought it was.
quote:Yeah, it was terrible. 7th at The Open, 12th at the US Open, 8th at The Masters. He’s used to winning, but it’s not as if he’s been bad.
Xander didn’t miss a cut all year and it was by far his worst year in recent memory.
Sometimes I think because Scottie is on an epic run and had a ridiculous 17 of 19 tournaments inside the top 11 everyone else is getting judged off that.
He was the #1 player if I recall correctly in 2023 and got smoked in the Ryder Cup. Match play ain’t stroke play.
Just for giggles I did the same evaluation vs Scottie I did Morikawa vs Gotterup (who was a popular choice for the team on this forum) at East Lake which showed Morikawa winning 1 up over the 4 day tournament. Despite finishing 4 behind.
Scottie wins 4 up. Shot differential was 6.
Match play isn’t stroke play, and consistent performance wins a lot.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:26 am to llfshoals
I think the US team took off too much time between four championship and Ryder cup, got sick, and had one of th worst captains ever. Conversely, the Euros were hungry, stayed sharp by playing, and had an amazing captain in Luke Donald. I don’t expect the Euros to come in overconfident and unprepared, but I expect a completely different approach from the US top to bottom. The US team is superior by all measurable metrics, and playing at home. If they just keep their game in shape and have a captain who pays attention to analytics on pairings, they will be fine. We will probably win easily, choose a shitty captain for 2027 and make all the same mistakes again, and be right back here in 4 years time.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:44 am to llfshoals
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Yeah, it was terrible. 7th at The Open, 12th at the US Open, 8th at The Masters. He’s used to winning, but it’s not as if he’s been bad.
He missed the Tour Championship…
He was great at the majors. His year as a whole was not great. It’s pretty easy to separate those two things.
quote:
Well considering how many missed cuts in “watered down” fields yeah, it is. Shows consistency. Again nobody in consideration who didn’t get in did better.
I’ve said I wanted Morikawa on the team. You’re just fitting stats to your narrative to prove it. Missing two cuts in five full field events is not good.
He finished T54 in a 70 person field at the RBC. He finished T42 in a 70 person field at the Travelers. He finished T33 in a 50 person field at the BMW. I mean, he was fine as a whole this year and good to start the year. I trust him and his base level play over anyone else we would have picked.
But he pretty clearly has not been good compared to his peers in the last three months.
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Match play isn’t stroke play, and consistent performance wins a lot.
In fourball, consistent performance is actually less important. But I would like Morikawa in foursomes and singles so it shouldn’t matter all that much.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:46 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:07 am to Big L
quote:I’d so hate to disagree with you.
choose a shitty captain for 2027 and make all the same mistakes again, and be right back here in 4 years time.
quote:We definitely have that.
have a captain who pays attention to analytics on pairings,
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:28 am to Dawgsontop34
Morikawa and X dont need to be playing alternate shot. They have the worst form on the team right now.
The alt shot pairings will be very important.
I think Griffin and Cam Young are much better options than some of the more experienced guys.
Still gotta figure out who we are pairing with Bryson.
The alt shot pairings will be very important.
I think Griffin and Cam Young are much better options than some of the more experienced guys.
Still gotta figure out who we are pairing with Bryson.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:53 am to SECSolomonGrundy
I’m still not convinced that going with foursomes / alt shot as first event was the right move. It’s just so important to get off to a hot start, and I think four ball would have been better for the rookies that are playing in better form.
I’m guessing our first four lineup will be something like Scottie / Henley, XS / Cantlay, Bryson / Cam Young (use prototype ball), and JT / Burns.
I’m guessing our first four lineup will be something like Scottie / Henley, XS / Cantlay, Bryson / Cam Young (use prototype ball), and JT / Burns.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:09 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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I think Griffin and Cam Young are much better options than some of the more experienced guys.
Still gotta figure out who we are pairing with Bryson.
Have to think at least part of the logic for Cam Young is a Bryson pairing partner. They are both playing the same ball right now. If they are both playing well, they will eviscerate people on this course.
Also have to think Harris English is 100% going to go out in the first foursomes (with maybe JT, Scottie, or Henley). He is an ideal foursomes partner.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:09 pm to Crimson1L
quote:
I’m still not convinced that going with foursomes / alt shot as first event was the right move. It’s just so important to get off to a hot start, and I think four ball would have been better for the rookies that are playing in better form.
Foursomes seems to heavily favor the home team, so I think they are going with that to hope to get off to a hot start. I hope everyone gets to play on day 1. I gotta think putting the rookies out on fourballs is the smart move, and if those guys have a lead, it could really free them up and they could ball out. You know the guys like JJ Spaun, cam young, and griffin are gonna be amped out of their minds, and I could see those guys going nuts in four balls in the afternoon.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:12 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Morikawa and X dont need to be playing alternate shot. They have the worst form on the team right now.
It’s not like either guy has been horrible. Plus there’s a month before the tournament. We’ll have Napa and a little time before to see how both guys are.
You also play fewer shots in alt shot, and especially with Morikawa you should at least generally be in play off the tee and he’s a good iron player still. Xander’s been hitting great irons. I’m fine with those guys in alternate shot, especially the first morning since they have Ryder Cup experience.
There’s a long long way to go before Day 1, but as of now, I feel like I’d do something like:
Foursomes
Xander/Cantlay
Bryson/Young
Morikawa/Spaun
Scottie/Henley
Fourball
JT/Griffin
Bryson/English
Scottie/Burns
Young/Cantlay
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:12 pm to Dawgsontop34
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especially with Morikawa you should at least generally be in play off the tee and he’s a good iron player still. Xander’s been hitting great irons
Putting is more important than all that shite. The Euros are gonna drain putts like they always do in these events.
I keep hearing so and so will keep it in play and lots of "the crowd will keep us in it." If we go in with a weak arse game plan like that, we are gonna gwt steam rolled. We need to go out there and beat arse, not play it safe off the tee. Euros are not going to come out playing conservative.
Morikawa aint gonna be able to do much with his little short fade and shitty putting. Who are we gonna pair him with? He isnt doing his partner any favors in foursomes. In fourball it's a different story and he might have some value there. But he has to find his putting stroke.
Henley is a better version of what Morikawa brings.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:40 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Have you watched the last two home Ryder cups?
You’re also acting like Morikawa is as bad as JT & Spieth were going into Rome, which is not the case.
You’re also acting like Morikawa is as bad as JT & Spieth were going into Rome, which is not the case.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:48 pm to Dawgsontop34
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the last two home Ryder cups?
We dont have the talent advantage that we had then. This Euro team is stacked.
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