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Talk me out of GI irons
Posted on 11/5/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/5/17 at 11:34 am
Background, I'm a former college golfer, quit for 10 years, just this past year started playing again once a month and play to a 5 handicap. I have small kids so I'm hanging it up until Spring, when I hope to start playing much more - ideally maybe playing once a week and practicing once a week. My goal is to get back down to scratch or close to it.
I bought an M1 driver and 3w this summer. My irons are 15 years old - Callaway x-18 pro series.
I've fitted for some new ones and really liked the Apex irons. Distance was 20 yards further than my current numbers and they felt great. In any event, it seems like most recommendations are the GI irons are only for high handicaps and I'll lose workability as opposed to the Apex Pro. Now with the new x-forged (which are beautiful), I'm wondering if I should consider those as well.
I guess my question is, how important is "workability" really? I'm happy to hit it solid and straight when I can. I'm not trying to make a run at a new profession. If these GI Apex irons are further and more forgiving than any of the others, isn't that the best route for what I want to achieve in golf? What am I really losing by going that route, as opposed to the Apex Pro or x-forged?
I bought an M1 driver and 3w this summer. My irons are 15 years old - Callaway x-18 pro series.
I've fitted for some new ones and really liked the Apex irons. Distance was 20 yards further than my current numbers and they felt great. In any event, it seems like most recommendations are the GI irons are only for high handicaps and I'll lose workability as opposed to the Apex Pro. Now with the new x-forged (which are beautiful), I'm wondering if I should consider those as well.
I guess my question is, how important is "workability" really? I'm happy to hit it solid and straight when I can. I'm not trying to make a run at a new profession. If these GI Apex irons are further and more forgiving than any of the others, isn't that the best route for what I want to achieve in golf? What am I really losing by going that route, as opposed to the Apex Pro or x-forged?
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Posted on 11/5/17 at 11:40 am to NaturalBeam
The older you get the more important it is to stretch and workout. That will help much more than irons.
The irons will help - as long as you are not gaming Titleist or Mizzuno blades, you skill set will work with any iron
It all depends on what you want to do - if you played college golf, you should have the talent to curve the ball on demand - go to a demo day and test all the irons - have fun doing it .
Use trackman and make sure your numbers are good.
The irons will help - as long as you are not gaming Titleist or Mizzuno blades, you skill set will work with any iron
It all depends on what you want to do - if you played college golf, you should have the talent to curve the ball on demand - go to a demo day and test all the irons - have fun doing it .
Use trackman and make sure your numbers are good.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 12:18 pm to NaturalBeam
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Distance was 20 yards further than my current numbers
Because the lofts are 1.5 clubs stronger
Posted on 11/5/17 at 2:13 pm to NaturalBeam
Mizuno jpx900 forged are beautiful and still have some game improvement factors to them.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 2:44 pm to NaturalBeam
If you are that good, a GI iron will frustrate the crap out of you. You just can’t work them. They are made to be hit straight.
I’m a 10 handicap and play the apex pros, I could probably benefit from a more GI set of irons though.
I’m a 10 handicap and play the apex pros, I could probably benefit from a more GI set of irons though.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 3:41 pm to NaturalBeam
Get some Mizuno or Titleist blades instead, I shoot the same scores no matter what clubs are in the bag.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:58 pm to Front9Bandit
quote:No. Golf is hard enough.
Get some Mizuno or Titleist blades instead
Posted on 11/5/17 at 5:03 pm to CoachChappy
quote:Thanks, this is the advice I'm seeking. I don't want to lose all workability completely but I'm trying to find a balance. Trying to work a 6 iron into a tucked pin is nice and all in theory but it's a concern for very few golfers. I'd say 95%+ of golfers would find way more benefit in more forgiving clubs that are longer and straighter, yet so many of those people want the newest blades and make this game harder than it needs to be.
If you are that good, a GI iron will frustrate the crap out of you. You just can’t work them. They are made to be hit straight.
I’m a 10 handicap and play the apex pros, I could probably benefit from a more GI set of irons though.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 6:33 pm to NaturalBeam
Most of today's player types (non blades) are just as forgiving as the GI irons 15 years ago. Say Ping I200 vs the Ping G15 - both will play with similar forgiveness but feel, workability, and aesthetics will be much more desirable with the modern Ping i200.
FWIW, I am a 12 hdcp and play Ping S55 irons. I hit them better than the G30s.
FWIW, I am a 12 hdcp and play Ping S55 irons. I hit them better than the G30s.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 6:41 pm to NaturalBeam
Hit the Srixon Z765s
You’re welcome.
You’re welcome.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 8:27 pm to NaturalBeam
Get some sexy irons and deal with a little less forgiveness. For me, the enjoyment I get out my my Mizuno combo set outweighs the benefits I get from a GI set.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 8:43 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:
Background, I'm a former college golfer, quit for 10 years, just this past year started playing again once a month and play to a 5 handicap. I have small kids so I'm hanging it up until Spring, when I hope to start playing much more - ideally maybe playing once a week and practicing once a week. My goal is to get back down to scratch or close to it.
I bought an M1 driver and 3w this summer. My irons are 15 years old - Callaway x-18 pro series.
I've fitted for some new ones and really liked the Apex irons. Distance was 20 yards further than my current numbers and they felt great. In any event, it seems like most recommendations are the GI irons are only for high handicaps and I'll lose workability as opposed to the Apex Pro. Now with the new x-forged (which are beautiful), I'm wondering if I should consider those as well.
I guess my question is, how important is "workability" really? I'm happy to hit it solid and straight when I can. I'm not trying to make a run at a new profession. If these GI Apex irons are further and more forgiving than any of the others, isn't that the best route for what I want to achieve in golf? What am I really losing by going that route, as opposed to the Apex Pro or x-forged?
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Talk me out of GI irons
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:32 am to NaturalBeam
The Ping I's are all around solid. Very workable and still forgiving.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:55 am to TaderSalad
quote:Yeah, I'm weighing where I want to be on the workability/forgiveness spectrum - it sounds like non blade player irons may be the way to go if they're just as forgiving. I hit some on the trackman and had the best numbers with Callaway - they've got those marketed as Apex, Apex Pro, x-forged, and Apex MB (down the line from GI to blades).
Most of today's player types (non blades) are just as forgiving as the GI irons 15 years ago
I'm leaning toward a combo set, which has Apex 3-7i, and Apex Pro 8i-PW.
My numbers were more than 5 yards further with Apex v. Apex Pro with the mid length clubs, but that difference shrinks as the club gets shorter. I feel like the extra distance and forgiveness with the longer irons would be more important than workability, and the opposite with shorter clubs.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:58 am to NaturalBeam
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I'm leaning toward a combo set, which has Apex 3-7i, and Apex Pro 8i-PW.
If I could go back, this is what I would've done with my APEX pros. I've taken out the 4i for a hybrid, with the APEX for higher clubs, I would probably still be using a 4i. Please note, I am not a good iron player (worst part of my game).
The only adjustment would be get the APEX pro 7i-PW or even AW.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:06 pm to NaturalBeam
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I'm leaning toward a combo set, which has Apex 3-7i, and Apex Pro 8i-PW.
Thats what I did. GI 5i, more players 6i, and 7-PW are pretty much players irons. Extremely forgiving compared to the older stuff. GI nowadays just feels like it caters to the group that plays 1-2x a season. Crap feel, and i've found them unpredictable.
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