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re: Should Phil be DQ'ed?

Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by Front9Bandit
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Absolutely, we should be able to change the rules mid tournament, because muh feelings


The SJW Open next year is gonna be on WGN can’t wait
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Douche move. Plain and simple. Sorry you are a scumbag

Why don’t you have your boyfriend pour you another Chardonnay and have a good cry about it?

Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:32 pm to
My fatness has nothing to do with it. Joe buck is a one sided commentor. He picks something/team and rides it as bad as Verne.

He is overly dramatic and out of his element of baseball.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:39 pm to
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My fatness has nothing to do with it.


I fully understand that, it's just fun for me to say.

Happy Father's Day, Fred.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Should have been DQ'd, pure and simple
Why?
Posted by dirtsandwich
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:59 pm to
Don’t have to change the rules to dq him.

quote:

But that is the wrong rule to enforce. The right one is Rule 1-2, which says a player must not “take an action with the intent to influence the movement of a ball in play.” A “serious breach,” according to this rule, “has allowed him or another player to gain a significant advantage.” And the penalty for a serious breach is disqualification.


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Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:02 pm to
This is the basis for the people who are arguing for his disqualification...

quote:

1-2. Exerting Influence on Movement of Ball or Altering Physical Conditions A player must not (i) take an action with the intent to influence the movement of a ball in play or (ii) alter physical conditions with the intent of affecting the playing of a hole. Exceptions: 1. An action expressly permitted or expressly prohibited by another Rule is subject to that other Rule, not Rule 1-2. 2. An action taken for the sole purpose of caring for the course is not a breach of Rule 1-2. *Penalty for Breach of Rule 1-2: Match play - Loss of hole; Stroke play - Two strokes. *In the case of a serious breach of Rule 1-2, the Committee may impose a penalty of disqualification


The USGA used a different rule that specifically addresses making a stroke on a moving ball, rule 14-5.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:04 pm to
If I’m playing against you in an event and I hit a chip that’s about to go into a bunker, but I stop it and hit it towards the hole before it stops. I take the 2 stroke penalty because I figure I could blow up the hole even worse. Then I beat you by 1 stroke. You wouldn’t be bitching then?
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:05 pm to
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The USGA used a different rule that specifically addresses making a stroke on a moving ball, rule 14-5.



BECAUSE, Rule 1-2 later states, (paraphrased) 'if another rules covers what happened, use THAT RULE. And that's what they decided.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:54 pm to
Which was correct.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:55 pm to
Every commentator on the Golf channel are adamant that he should have been DQ'd.
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 7:56 pm to
Thank you LCA
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:08 pm to
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Every commentator on the Golf channel are adamant that he should have been DQ'd.

And they are all wrong.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:19 pm to
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And they are all wrong.



That's your opinion.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:22 pm to
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Every commentator on the Golf channel are adamant that he should have been DQ'd.


Let's all keep in mind, there are legal things and there are things that are just right. Maybe he should not be dq'd because the rules don't call for that. But in a fair and just world what he did was wrong. And probably demeaning to his stature in the game.

He's going to catch some crap for this for a while and should. I thought David Duval had a great point if he was going to do this when the ball came to stop he should have just declared unplayable and gone back up and replay the putt again. Which would have been a tremendous advantage since he had seen the putt once.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 8:24 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32557 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Every commentator on the Golf channel are adamant that he should have been DQ'd.

The day I give 2 shits what Brandel Chamblee thinks, I’ll jump off a fricking bridge. The commentators are the only ones who really care. It’s a story they get to write about instead of the course being a joke this afternoon.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:52 pm to
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That's your opinion.

It's fact as per the rules. You don't DQ someone because you think what they did is a dick move. The rules are clear.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:01 pm to
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It's fact as per the rules. You don't DQ someone because you think what they did is a dick move. The rules are clear.



A ruling that is obviously open to some interpretation. If it were as clear cut as you are saying, two ex players in Noblo and Duval wouldn't have said he should have been DQ'd, and even going as far as saying a lesser player would have been DQ'd on the spot.
The officials could have used one of two rules to cover Phil's action and they chose the one that didn't DQ him.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 9:04 pm
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:05 pm to
Wasn’t there a poll for players and one of the questions was who the least liked player, with Mickelson being the nearly unanimous answer?

Gee I wonder why.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:07 pm to
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Why don’t you have your boyfriend pour you another Chardonnay and have a good cry about it?


Let me know when you take phils dick out of your mouth so I can punch it
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