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re: Sam is done USGA just screwed him in the fairway and about to go 2 down

Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:12 am to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:12 am to
I can’t see how two officials got it wrong. USGA is notoriously hard when it comes to weather. I don’t think I have ever seen them play lift, clean, and place.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15393 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:49 am to
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Calm your tits bro. Did he steal your girl Or something?


No, I was cheering for him to win. I’m from Bossier and wanted to see him win it. But he did choke, which was frustrating to watch.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42358 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:15 am to
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I am. And I believe it is bad ruling. Terrible in fact.




You were there? You were able to get up on his ball and see like the two actual rules officials?

Or were you just like the rest of us and only see what was on tv where you couldn't tell at all whether it was a good ruling or not?

I'm assuming you were watching on tv like the rest of us and in no way can say it was a terrible ruling.
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:32 am to
Even if you’re ok with the ruling, it’s at minimum a dumb rule.

He hit the fairway at a tournament that puts a premium on hitting the fairway. If it’s even questionable the relief should have been given.


I just don’t get the downside to giving him relief there I guess. He handled the situation well.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42358 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:38 am to
O I 100% would have rather him gotten relief. I was pulling for Sam.

But he had two guys look at it and agreed that it was playable. Hard to argue against two of them. He did the right thing and called in a second opinion and seemed satisfied after the ruling.

That was a big moment for sure but I think the wheels were already coming off and that single shot wasn't the reason he lost it.

But you're also right in that I see no downside to giving him relief there.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8458 posts
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:11 pm to
No but it probably cost him about 1 million dollars.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31668 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:43 am to
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Duffnshank

Damn, you care way too much.
Posted by OnePutt
New Orleans & Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:18 pm to
Duffnshank, here’s the definition or Temporary Water (copied directly from the Official Guide to the Rules of Golf):

Any temporary accumulation of water on the surface of the ground (such as puddles from rain or irrigation or an overflow from a body of water) that:
Is not in a penalty area, and
Can be seen before or after the player takes a stance (without pressing down excessively with their feet).
It is not enough for the ground to be merely wet, muddy or soft or for the water to be momentarily visible as the player steps on the ground; an accumulation of water must remain present either before or after the stance is taken. (end of definition)

Commentary - Water must be present before taking the stance (it wasn’t with Sam), or present after the stance is completely taken (both rules officials say it wasn’t). It doesn’t matter if water is momentarily visible while a player is in the process of taking the stance or walking near the ball.

Your comments and others are not unexpected; this is a generally misunderstood rule.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8458 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 7:48 pm to
you are 100% correct sir!
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