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PIF needs to pull the rug out from under Monahan this week
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:28 am
Talks seem stalled
Announce that Monahan isnt negotiating in good faith. Say there is 1 billion left for new player contracts and announce a new round of expensive lawsuits.
Monahan is such an arrogant douche it makes the Saudis look preferable.
Announce that Monahan isnt negotiating in good faith. Say there is 1 billion left for new player contracts and announce a new round of expensive lawsuits.
Monahan is such an arrogant douche it makes the Saudis look preferable.
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:20 am to Cosmo
The Saudis wanted out of the lawsuits just as much as Jay did. Both sides knew the original “agreement” was just horseshite.
Also, good faith?
You ever do deals with anyone middle eastern? Yes, Jay may be a prick, but I promise the Saudis aren’t offended by his “bad faith”
Also, good faith?
You ever do deals with anyone middle eastern? Yes, Jay may be a prick, but I promise the Saudis aren’t offended by his “bad faith”This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:36 am to lsupride87
PGA by getting the 3billion investment from inside the US gives them a lot more power to not have to find to any requests. I don’t see them getting a deal done.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:52 am to Tvilletiger
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I don’t see them getting a deal done.
Agree
But the damage has been done
They pissed off all their players who thought they were “doing the right thing” then Jay fricked them and bent the knee. Already caused Rahm to jump. As soon as deal officially crumbles more will follow. OWGR thing will get straightened out within a year.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:52 am to Tvilletiger
The second the signed the “agreement” the first thing PIF did was try and strengthen themselves by adding more players, while the Tour tried to strengthen themselves by injecting other money
It isn’t a secret to either side
It isn’t a secret to either side
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:53 am to Cosmo
quote:You think those players that are now all richer are mad?
They pissed off all their player who thought they were “doing the right thing” then Jay fricked them and bent the knee.
You think people that are mad name Jay the CEO of the new enterprise?
Look at the top guys on the tour now. They are pushing Jay to keep making the same moves he is making. The only players pushed are the lower guys. But that’s what the LIV battle has created. It “shrinks” the game.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:54 am to lsupride87
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You think those players that are now all richer are mad?
Not as rich as they will be on LIV
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:55 am to Cosmo
quote:Then they can go.
Not as rich as they will be on LIV
Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:25 pm to lsupride87
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Then they can go.
They will lmao. I think there will be unification. Just with LIV and the DP World Tour. Jay never wanted to negotiate in good faith. It’s going to end up being the “US Tour” and the true international tour.
Once LIV has access to larger fields in the international tours, you’re going to see more and more players included in the majors like Niemann. Then you’re going to see larger success in the LIV tournaments like last week in Hong Kong and last year in Adelaide until the majors include the top 10-12 non-exempt LIV players into each major.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:00 pm to OKtiger
quote:If they are planning on going they are idiots for waiting. Their price only goes down if any unification ever happens
They will lmao.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:04 pm to OKtiger
quote:This immediately writes off someone. Immediately. What good faith do you think the Saudis have?
Jay never wanted to negotiate in good faith.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:58 pm to Cosmo
Any of you supporting PIF need to get your heads checked
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:10 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
Dude they are simply tired of the abuse western nations give middle eastern shieks dealing in bad faith
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:20 pm to lsupride87
LIV is a Victor Hovland and Rory away from bringing the PGA tour down. They get two more top twenty players and I see the entire deal falling their way. Monahan is gonna f around and find out soon.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 5:40 pm to AirbusDawg
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LIV is a Victor Hovland and Rory away from bringing the PGA tour down. They get two more top twenty players and I see the entire deal falling their way. Monahan is gonna f around and find out soon.
You would think they’d learn after Rahm but, there’s nothing stopping this league. Idk why PGAT and Monahan think they’re just going to give up
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:00 pm to OKtiger
LIV was never about getting its own golf league, it was about getting in the ELITE boys club that is US Golf. Money can't buy your way in and Yasir saw that, i think that his main motivation is to get in that club through the merger, he WANTS it to go through.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 7:44 pm to barry
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think that his main motivation is to get in that club through the merger, he WANTS it to go through.
Don’t think that’s necessarily the case anymore. Even if the merger goes through, he’s not letting LIV dissolve.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 8:31 pm to OKtiger
quote:They won’t give up,. But buying players hasnt worked for them. They haven’t made a dent into being a reputable main steam golf tour. What has getting Rahm changed for them?
Idk why PGAT and Monahan think they’re just going to give up
They realize golf can’t support a divided front and be seen as main stream. They know they have to have the tour to be the main ticket
Y’all can hate me, hate Jay, etc etc, but PIF and all their money can’t buy what they want without the Tour. They have a host of fantastic players right now and they simply tread water. And it isn’t really their fault. Golf just isn’t a big enough product to support what they want. They need the established Tour
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:36 pm to barry
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LIV was never about getting its own golf league, it was about getting in the ELITE boys club that is US Golf. Money can't buy your way in and Yasir saw that, i think that his main motivation is to get in that club through the merger, he WANTS it to go through.
That has always been the case; it was never about the money but rather about the access.
The SSG deal likely fends off further true splitting of important assets as Yasir and the PIF are both somewhat tied into and, straight up, aren't good and savvy enough to continuously pick off John Henry, Arthur Blank, Wyc Grousbeck, and the like.
Golf is not big enough or lucrative enough on its own to continually pour these kinds of resources into the sport, though. These kinds of up-front comps and purses are unsustainable over the long-term given ratings, advertising reach, and so forth. There is more than a small kernel of me that it beginning to think the PIF was leveraging this as a carrot into high level US sports ownership, particularly the NFL.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:09 am to lsupride87
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What has getting Rahm changed for them?
Rahm by far was the most valuable asset. It brought them legitimacy. It was the first time you and every PGAT fan looked around and said, “Oh, they’re not just going away because they have shitty CW ratings.” Even Rory changed his tone on LIV knowing he couldn’t burn every bridge since two of his Ryder Cup teammates joined on.
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They need the established Tour
They don’t. PGAT works primarily in the US. It’s a US golf tour. I would say LIV is the first legitimate attempt at a World Tour and they’re only growing in year 3. They are working through different revenue streams to make up for the lackluster US ratings like having cities and sites pay for a LIV tournament. LIV Hong Kong was a legitimate success. Maybe not in the eyes of US viewers but, that’s only one piece of the pie.
I think people are conflating lack of interest in the US with lack of interest in Europe, South America, Australia and Asia. These are untapped areas that LIV is specifically trying to target. And they’re doing it with success.
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