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re: PGA Creators Classic thread
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:30 pm to llfshoals
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:30 pm to llfshoals
I watch the Bob Does Sports guys for entertainment, none of the others have much character. I watch No Laying Up to kill time but as they have gotten older and started having families their content has changed.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:44 pm to lsupride87
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The whole “pro setups would have scratch golfers struggling to break 90” is on full display in court right now and the verdict looks rough
I don’t think these are your average “scratch golfers”
Wesley is a pga tour winner. Let’s not act like some of these guys are a scratch who play your local country club from 6300.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:46 pm to Swagga
quote:Some of them are very good, but these pins are in the middle of greens in relatively easy spots.
I don’t think these are your average “scratch golfers”
The pros will not see flags anywhere near that easy.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 6:56 pm to Swagga
quote:That was exactly what Phil accurately argued against
Let’s not act like some of these guys are a scratch who play your local country club from 6300.

Scratch golfer used to be the 45 year old fat arse accountant playing poke it in the middle safe golf averaging 75s from 6300 yards
Scratch now at most good clubs is a 28 year old former college athlete bombing 300 yard drives who goes low as frick from real tips at times
The random amateur game is wildly different
We all say the average pro golfer is wildly more athletic than ever before. Which is 100% true. But I think the random country club good golfer the change has been even more drastic
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:03 pm to llfshoals
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these pins are in the middle of greens
I think the PGA does that for the pro am and such so the real pin locations don't get chewed up.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:03 pm to lsupride87
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We all say the average pro golfer is wildly more athletic than ever before. Which is 100% true. But I think the random country club good golfer the change has been even more drastic
I would totally agree with that. I definitely find myself making distinctions as far as single digit / scratch golfers who have games that could travel anywhere and those who poke it around their same home track.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:19 pm to Swagga
This Roger Steele dude is the perfect example. Random good athlete that has no real golf background and he fires a -1.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:26 pm to lsupride87
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This Roger Steele dude is the perfect example.
Smoked a 330 yard drive with 195 mph ball speed on the first.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:54 pm to lsupride87
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Scratch golfer used to be the 45 year old fat arse accountant playing poke it in the middle safe golf averaging 75s from 6300 yards
Depends on the Club.
Champions GC here in Houston has a lot of scratch players of all ages that can play anywhere.
At one time, I heard that they had the most scratch to low single digit players in the nation. And this is a course that has 4 club greens.
I heard years ago that prospective members had to audition and play a round with Jackie Burke to prove they could play.
Several other courses around here are the same way.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:16 pm to bopper50
quote:That’s impressive.
At one time, I heard that they had the most scratch to low single digit players in the nation. And this is a course that has 4 club greens.
I’d say anyone who can shoot under par at The Judge from age/handicap appropriate tees can play with anybody.
Theres damn few haul off and swing holes on that track. Hit it 330? Just means you went through the fairway into the grunge, or in the water on some holes.
I’ll admit that’d help on the 700 yard par 5.
One particularly telling stat according to 18 birdies
Putts per hole - harder than 89% of all other courses.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:18 pm to bopper50
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Depends on the Club. Champions GC here in Houston has a lot of scratch players of all ages that can play anywhere. At one time, I heard that they had the most scratch to low single digit players in the nation. And this is a course that has 4 club greens. I heard years ago that prospective members had to audition and play a round with Jackie Burke to prove they could play. Several other courses around here are the same way.
Was true but no longer. I think Dean (grandson - rice grad) is running the show now.
Which other clubs are like that? Have never heard of anything as stringent as what Champions mandated.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 10:23 pm to Hou_Lawyer
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Which other clubs are like that? Have never heard of anything as stringent as what Champions mandated
I meant there were other clubs with a lot of scratch.players. I remember Lakeside had quite a few at one time.
We use to have the Summer and Winter Carnivals at Fort Bend CC . If you couldn't shoot mid 60's in the Championship flight, you wouldn't sniff any money.
Guys like Schroder, White, Kerney, Caldwell, Kovar and other alway shot low and most were City Amateurs winners.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 7:45 am to JimTiger72
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Bryson not getting an invite
Bryson uploaded a new video about the same time this started yesterday

Already done just as many views as their event & will probably end up surpassing it
Posted on 8/29/24 at 8:17 am to JimTiger72
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Already done just as many views as their event & will probably end up surpassing it
Both of which are more than LIV pulled at Greenbrier.
Creator Classic Sitting at around 1m with Live stream viewers plus YouTube views. Bryson at around 900k.
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Saturday (1-6P): 136K
Sunday (1-6:11P): 165K
Posted on 8/29/24 at 8:24 am to MrSpock
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Both of which are more than LIV pulled at Greenbrier.

Not sure if that means the two sides are getting closer to a deal, but it seems like a move in the right direction
Posted on 8/29/24 at 8:33 am to JimTiger72
Your ability to make any golf thread LIV related is astounding. If you’re not on the payroll you certainly should be 

Posted on 8/29/24 at 8:33 am to MrSpock
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Creator Classic Sitting at around 1m with Live stream viewers plus YouTube views.
How are you adding these numbers?
I’m seeing 906k views compared to Bryson with 899k…
Posted on 8/29/24 at 8:34 am to Swagga
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Your ability to make any golf thread LIV related is astounding.
Your ability to blame me for it is astounding.
Talking about Bryson in a thread about content creators… someone else brings up LIV’s #s from greenbriar
Posted on 8/29/24 at 10:13 am to JimTiger72
quote:Umm, no
using #s from the CW
The YouTube stream of liv greenbrier final round battle of Rahm and Koepka has 146k views
The YouTube stream of PGA Creators classic is at 900k
That’s apples to apples bother.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 10:18 am to lsupride87
I didn’t even know final round of LIV was streamed on YouTube
Nobody was comparing the two though.
I was comparing Bryson’s video to the PGA’s
Nobody was comparing the two though.
I was comparing Bryson’s video to the PGA’s
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