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re: Patrick Reed at it again.

Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:46 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 11:46 am to
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What did he do wrong here?
Lied. And took extra steps to cover it. Just because he used the rules to his advantage, doesn't make it okay. NLU talks about this extensively and I agree with them completely. I suggest you listen.

Reed pulls a rules official over having removed the ball, shoved his finger down a few times, and not replacing the ball. What exactly was the rules official there for then at that point? Ask yourself that and the motivation behind it: Only for Reed to get confirmation (which he knows he will get at this point). By rule, he could have just taken the drop and played on. But he calls in an official because it gives him cover. And just like the NFL, the PGA has to protect the call of the official. But remember, his hands are tied and Reed knows it. He's got a mark he's created and a volunteer who said she didn't see it bounce. But that's another lie. People took a listen to her answer... The first thing she says when he asks if it bounced is "I don't know... I didn't see it bounce." Basically, she's saying she didn't see it at all.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64730 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:48 pm to
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He's got a mark he's created and a volunteer who said she didn't see it bounce. But that's another lie. People took a listen to her answer... The first thing she says when he asks if it bounced is "I don't know... I didn't see it bounce." Basically, she's saying she didn't see it at all.


Why do you lie when you know the video/audio is out there for us all to see/hear?

The volunteer was asked, “did it bounce?” She replied with, “um, no, I didn’t see it bounce.”

That’s a little more definitive that what you incorrectly said. She did say “I didn’t see it bounce”, but that was after first replying with “No”.

The NLU guys are not the Supreme Court here. They have opinions just like everyone else.



BlastOff has made the most sense in this thread.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:54 pm to
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“um, no, I didn’t see it bounce.”


does not equal, "it didn't bounce"
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87296 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Why do you lie when you know the video/audio is out there for us all to see/hear?

The volunteer was asked, “did it bounce?” She replied with, “um, no, I didn’t see it bounce.”
I turned it up last night. What I quoted is exactly what she said. Her first response is that she didn't know she didn't see it bounce. That wasn't her saying that it definitely didnt bounce. We KNOW it bounced man. She OBVIOUSLY didn't see it at all in flight.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1906 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:19 pm to
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If it were any other player they would have called the rules’ official over before they moved the ball and asked the same question.


Rory says differently.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1906 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:26 pm to
So many terrible “takes” in this thread. Mob mentality is real.

14 other times in that tournament this took place. Once with Rory, whose ball also bounced. Rory marks, removes ball, and drops ball and not a word is mentioned.

Golf is using PR the same way the MSM pushes “racism”. Wake up idiots.

PR has done some sketchy shite in his career, but this instance is all being flamed.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5296 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:28 pm to
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Actually, he should have called over one of his playing companions over to check to see whether the ball was embedded.


There's no need to call a playing companion over for an embedded ball, you just tell them I'm going to check if it's embedded. The thing that made it weird is he pulled it, then held it, then randomly put the ball on the ground. Then called a rules official over. You don't need an official, you pick it up, either it's embedded and you take a drop, or it's not and you put it back.

Calling the official over makes it seem a lot worse, because it was likely not embedded if you're asking a new opinion. There's normally not much of a question of whether or not it's embedded.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7444 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:31 pm to
Not a single player will leave where they are and go check. They will just trust the player.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64730 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:33 pm to
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What I quoted is exactly what she said. Her first response is that she didn't know she didn't see it bounce.


Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
86640 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Lied. And took extra steps to cover it
When?

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Reed pulls a rules official over having removed the ball, shoved his finger down a few times, and not replacing the ball. What exactly was the rules official there for then at that point? Ask yourself that and the motivation behind it: Only for Reed to get confirmation (which he knows he will get at this point). By rule, he could have just taken the drop and played on. But he calls in an official because it gives him cover. And just like the NFL, the PGA has to protect the call of the official. But remember, his hands are tied and Reed knows it. He's got a mark he's created and a volunteer who said she didn't see it bounce. But that's another lie. People took a listen to her answer... The first thing she says when he asks if it bounced is "I don't know... I didn't see it bounce." Basically, she's saying she didn't see it at all.
You're making massive assumptions here.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86640 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:36 pm to
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MileHighDraw

Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7444 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:37 pm to
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PR has done some sketchy shite in his career, but this instance is all being flamed.


I will be in the lower percentage here but even with the bunker ordeal, I tend to side with Reed as he said the camera angle made it look worse.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7444 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:38 pm to
Brandel has a history with Reed. A bad one. And Faldo got hosed on interviews with Reed multiple times so he hates him personally too.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11916 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:45 pm to
You could tell Sunday Faldo's melting was personal. He sounded like such a whiny bitch all day on the subject
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87296 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Calling the official over makes it seem a lot worse, because it was likely not embedded if you're asking a new opinion. There's normally not much of a question of whether or not it's embedded.
Thank you.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1906 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:48 pm to
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There's normally not much of a question of whether or not it's embedded


Yea and you aren’t normally in 11 inches of rough a day after it rained 4 inches. Next
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87296 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:52 pm to
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Yea and you aren’t normally in 11 inches of rough
We know you exaggerate in your own threads. No needs to do that here in a legit discussion thread. Where Reed's ball landed was nowhere near 11 inches. If you truly believe that, it makes sense that you think you hit your 4 iron so far.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1906 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:57 pm to
Did you go measure it?

Everyone else seem to be exaggerating exactly what happened.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11916 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 2:57 pm to
I think you know what he means

I didn't think about the rain aspect. What's really funny is this situation didn't affect the tournament in any way.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11916 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Everyone else seem to be exaggerating exactly what happened.


It's not just exaggerating the mob seems to be making things up solely because of PR's reputation.
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