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re: Patrick Cantlay and Xander Schauffele linked with LIV switch
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:13 pm to lsufb1912
Posted on 11/10/22 at 8:13 pm to lsufb1912
Dumping Norman would probably ease tensions with some on the policy board for sure.
But the PGA Tour will continue to fight to protect the brand as they should.
LiV ratings has been dismal and it going to be tough to get a network to commit 3 days of air time.
But the PGA Tour will continue to fight to protect the brand as they should.
LiV ratings has been dismal and it going to be tough to get a network to commit 3 days of air time.
Posted on 11/11/22 at 9:24 am to BallChamp00
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Shane used hearsay in his book about him. Lacked validity.
There's a reason hearsay is not relevant outside of a court setting, and even in a court setting, includes numerous exceptions. In a book, as long as the background for the statement is included, there is no problem. Lawsuits by Reed are dumb and will be tossed. Likely they will actually result in a judgment against Reed actually. A fool and his money
Posted on 11/11/22 at 9:49 am to lsujro
Yep! At least someone understands court proceedings and law.
Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:30 pm to lsujro
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Lawsuits by Reed are dumb and will be tossed. Likely they will actually result in a judgment against Reed actually. A fool and his money
That would be awesome.
Posted on 11/14/22 at 5:49 am to TDTOM
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I bet the PGA tour gives a shite. He's the 4th ranked player in the world and another blow to their ego.
I don't care.
OK, you may not, but you ought to understand the Tour does. They do not want top players jumping ship.
So your care is irrelevant in the long run.
But this report/rumor may be a big nothing burger anyway.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 5:04 pm to bopper50
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It is B.S. if LIV can continue the lawsuit without complying.
If an Order to Compel is entered and they don't comply, the Court can and will dismiss their lawsuit. If LIV's attys are actually arguing that US Courts have no jurisdiction over them, why do they think US Courts have jurisdiction to hear their case?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:36 am to bopper50
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The 54 holes vs 72 holes is one of the biggest obstacles from what I have read.
The LIV limited field is probably is another issue to work through IMO.
Plus LIV is an invitational tournament.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:22 pm to RedHawk
So it’s not that any one of those is disqualifying. It’s that having more than one of those issues is? I sure wish the OWGR had just stuck to their written requirements.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:24 pm to lsufball19
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If an Order to Compel is entered and they don't comply, the Court can and will dismiss their lawsuit. If LIV's attys are actually arguing that US Courts have no jurisdiction over them, why do they think US Courts have jurisdiction to hear their case?
That isn’t what they are arguing. From what I understand, The PGA is demanding info from the saudis themselves and not just the LIV.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:01 pm to BBONDS25
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The PGA is demanding info from the saudis themselves and not just the LIV.
I thought they were demanding discovery from the PIF and its governor, Yasir Al-Rumayyan. PIF owns LIV Golf, so I don't really think that changes my argument. How do they think they're immune from the jurisdiction of a US Court on one hand, and on the other file a lawsuit against the PGA Tour in a US Court? They're trying to compel compliance to depose Al-Rumayyan and for PIF to respond to RFPDs. The Motion and response have been sealed by the Court so I couldn't tell you the exact arguments being made but I can't really see a very good argument from LIV to prevail on a discovery motion like this and have any hope of prevailing in their lawsuit.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:18 pm to ATLsuTiger
Meanwhile NLU just released an interview where ZS stated he’s never spoken to liv and isn’t going anywhere.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:21 pm to lsufball19
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How do they think they're immune from the jurisdiction of a US Court on one hand, and on the other file a lawsuit against the PGA Tour in a US Court?
I didn’t say that. LIV is the entity suing the PGA tour. The tour countersued. In discovery the tour asked for documents from the people that are involved with the entity that owns LIV.
The tour would have to convince a court that whatever info that they are asking for would reasonably lead to discovering info that is relevant to their claim or their defense. I have yet to see the tour or anyone one this board articulate ANY argument to that end.
If an argument is made at it is compelling, the judge will sign an order to compel. If they don’t comply, the suit will be tossed.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:48 pm to BBONDS25
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have yet to see the tour or anyone one this board articulate ANY argument to that end.
Well, everything is sealed pertaining to the discovery motion so you’re not going to see anyone outside that courtroom be able to articulate an argument. However, you’re arguing relevance not jurisdiction as they allegedly are, which makes no sense
I’m an attorney too. No need to give me a lesson on how discovery works
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 11:53 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:19 pm to lsufball19
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I’m an attorney too. No need to give me a lesson on his discovery works
Wasn’t trying to give a lesson. Just saying this is likely much ado about nothing. The Saudi’s can cry about jurisdiction. The pga can cry about Saudi’s. None of it matters. If an argument is made that moves the court they will comply or the case will be dismissed. If no argument is made, the suit continues.
I have no dog in this hunt. I have a very good friend that is on tour. I want a strong tour. I don’t hate the LIV, though. I think Monohan has acted horribly in this whole mess.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:26 pm to BBONDS25
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I have a very good friend that is on tour.
We have rules.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:37 pm to RummelTiger
Haha. Sorry Rummy. He is a 75-175 player year in and year out. Sometimes he keeps his card. Sometimes he has to do well in the KF finals. But he always manages to stay on the big tour. I have not talked to him about LIV. But I am not mad at 10-20 guys consistently above him leaving the tour!
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