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re: Oakmont once again is being blown way out of proportion
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:56 am to ell_13
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:56 am to ell_13
quote:Yes, I do. The USGA told the media it’s a 14 stimp and 5.5” rough. They announced that yesterday. You can go see from over a month ago that’s exactly where they had the rough and green speeds
You have repeatedly implied that the barstool guys played the same course at the same difficulty as the pros are playing this weekend. I don’t think that’s debatable even for you. Do you still stand by those comments?
This course is extremely hard. But it doesn’t meet the average high or mid capper is going to shoot 150. It’s the same shite the media does for the masters
The course is extremely hard. The pros scores will be far worse than their average events. But that doesn’t translate to 15-18 handicappers shooting over 150 or not being able to finish etc etc like the discourse we had early in the week. When a shitty golfer missed the fairway yes now they are screwed in this rough. But they always miss fairways. It’s better than their shitty arse being OB, in water, behind trees etc. It’s not as penal to their overall performance as the pros
The same shite happens every year before the masters about the greens and mid handicaps. And just this year we got to watch JJ watt literally play the Monday after
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:01 pm
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:04 pm to lsupride87
That’s a lot of BS just to say you still think a guy who can’t break 90 from 5800 on an easy course shot 104 where the pros at +8 handicaps can’t break par.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:07 pm to ell_13
I mean it’s on video is it not? 
You can see the rough he is standing in. You can see the distance he is playing from
Are you saying they edited the videos?
Also you had golfers shoot 10+ over par at Augusta and JJ watt(a 15 capper) shot 103
It’s still considerably over their handicap man. It shows it’s hard as hell. We just don’t need to get hyperbolic as shite with the “can’t break 150” or “they would 4 putt every green “
It’s amazing saying “I think being 20 strokes worse” is acting like the course is easy
It’s just insane to actually pretend it’s 50 shots harder
And go watch the pro interviews. There were some pros that said a 15-18 handicap would shoot 110, JT being one of them.
You can see the rough he is standing in. You can see the distance he is playing from
Are you saying they edited the videos?
Also you had golfers shoot 10+ over par at Augusta and JJ watt(a 15 capper) shot 103
It’s still considerably over their handicap man. It shows it’s hard as hell. We just don’t need to get hyperbolic as shite with the “can’t break 150” or “they would 4 putt every green “
It’s amazing saying “I think being 20 strokes worse” is acting like the course is easy
It’s just insane to actually pretend it’s 50 shots harder
And go watch the pro interviews. There were some pros that said a 15-18 handicap would shoot 110, JT being one of them.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:27 pm to lsupride87
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And just this year we got to watch JJ watt literally play the Monday after
we got to watch or we got to see him claim a score on social media?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
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I mean it’s on video is it not?
You can see the rough he is standing in. You can see the distance he is playing from
Are you saying they edited the videos?
yes, those guys 10000% edit their videos. Trent has a breaking 980 series on normal courses, then shoots a 104 at Oakmont from the tournament tees. Bull fricking shite he did. I said it earlier, that group of guys reverse sandbags more than anyone on social media. They want people to think they're way better at golf than they actually are
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:31 pm to lsufball19
Then why would a “4 handicap” show himself shooting a 106?
That dude is so full of shite
Do people realize how many shots 150 is? An 18 handicap can actually play golf. Their is basically no OB or water
Yes the rough is going to absolutely kill them. But 55 shots over their average? It’s just insane to me
That dude is so full of shite
Do people realize how many shots 150 is? An 18 handicap can actually play golf. Their is basically no OB or water
Yes the rough is going to absolutely kill them. But 55 shots over their average? It’s just insane to me
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:35 pm to lsupride87
I feel like you post on this board knowing no one will agree with you just to argue.
If you want to believe a guy who had an entire series trying to break 90 from the blues shot a 104 at Oakmont from 7300 yards, you're well within your rights to believe that.
But us in reality know that content creators are trying to drive viewership. No one is going to watch 4 bad golfers shoot 125. They won't finish the video. But watching a hack try to break 100 drives more interest. Beating Riggs by 2 only drives interest anymore from their followers.
If you want to believe a guy who had an entire series trying to break 90 from the blues shot a 104 at Oakmont from 7300 yards, you're well within your rights to believe that.
But us in reality know that content creators are trying to drive viewership. No one is going to watch 4 bad golfers shoot 125. They won't finish the video. But watching a hack try to break 100 drives more interest. Beating Riggs by 2 only drives interest anymore from their followers.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:37 pm to lsufball19
I brought something that can actually be used to measure it and people (including yourself) shite on it
Same way they shite on my thread when I posted Watts score.
Same way they shite on my thread when I posted Watts score.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:41 pm to lsupride87
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Same way they shite on my thread when I posted Watts score.
Watt tweeted what he shot. That doesn't prove anything about Augusta. I have buddies that post about their low scores all the time yet somehow are never able to shoot those scores in front of the rest of us. One of my best friends on a good day would struggle to break 100 if he counted all his strokes. But seems to always shoot in the mid 80s when he's with his dad/brother. Crazy how that works right?
Using a youtube video you watched to measure how hard a course is or isn't is not good evidence. I watched some of those videos. Oakmont basically had a content creators day. The best golfers in that space got absolutely eaten alive by Oakmont. So what am I to believe when comparing the two? That because there isn't water that Trent could career it at maybe the hardest golf course in America? Not likely. The conditions were also shite the day they filmed, so that wouldn't help him either.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:45 pm to lsufball19
He still shot 17 shots over what his average is. Riggs shot 24 over his average
They didn’t career anything They just didn’t shoot a ridiculous premise of 60 shots more than what they normally do
Twisting my argument that this course isn’t hard or guys could have career rounds is insane
The course are they alive too
They didn’t career anything
They just didn’t shoot a ridiculous premise of 60 shots more than what they normally do Twisting my argument that this course isn’t hard or guys could have career rounds is insane
The course are they alive too
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:50 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Riggs shot 24 over his average
I've never watched Riggs play a round where he didn't shoot way over what he claims his average is. He's full of shite.
quote:
He still shot 17 shots over what his average is
you think Trent's average is 87?
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They didn’t career anything
If Trent shot a 104 at Oakmont from the tips, yes he careered it
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:50 pm to lsupride87
no one will click an article that says it's not all that much difficult with the US Open conditions
Hype and exaggeration = clicks
Hype and exaggeration = clicks
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:56 pm to lsufball19
quote:I can only go by what he is posting
you think Trent's average is 87
His new series is breaking 85. His last few rounds he appears to be averaging that yes
But anyway, for example on my point here, I think Oakmont is far far harder than sawgrass for pros
I think sawgrass would play harder for an 18 handicap than Oakmont
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:01 pm to lsufball19
quote:He does it on every board fwiw.
I feel like you post on this board knowing no one will agree with you just to argue
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:07 pm to lsupride87
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His new series is breaking 85. His last few rounds he appears to be averaging that yes
I just clicked on his Break 85 videos. He has 4 of them total. He's not playing from the tips either
TPC Deer Run 94
Colonial Springs (his home course) 89
Mesa Country Club (titled "Trent has a Career Day") 87
Long Island, Eisenhower Park's Red Course 94
No, he does not average 87. 87 is his career best round posted online. That's from forward tees and was at a course with a 72.9 rating from the blue tees. So his career day was 87 on an average course. His claimed handicap is 17.2, so not even he claims to average 87
Trent does not have the distance of the tee to shoot that score at Oakmont from 7500 yards
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:26 pm to lsupride87
quote:Amazing that you would blatantly lie when it’s so easily proven false.
His last few rounds he appears to be averaging that yes
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:32 pm to lsufball19
The only Trent Ryan in GHIN is based in New Jersey and is a 15.6. So there’s no way to see his posted scores. Is he using a different app perhaps?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:32 pm to ell_13
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The only Trent Ryan in GHIN is based in New Jersey and is a 15.6. So there’s no way to see his posted scores. Is he using a different app perhaps?
idk, the there was an Instagram post in the last couple of months that had a list of a bunch of influencers' handicaps and Trent's showed a 17.2. It didn't specify where they were pulling those from. Several of them were very "sus"
LINK
Edit: Actually here's a link to that accounts actual webpage. They have Trent now at a 16.7. Their methodology is inputting scores from the videos the influencers post online only.
LINK
They have Riggs at an 8.1 which also seems more realistic than what he claims
you can click on the question mark icon on the top right corner to see how they calculate everything
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:29 pm to lsufball19
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They have Riggs at an 8.1 which also seems more realistic than what he claims
I'd sooner believe rigs is a 18.1 than an 8.1.
He posts rounds in the 70s and even a few under 70 but then when he plays on camera it's 90s and up.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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He posts rounds in the 70s and even a few under 70
he's posted rounds under 70? lol, not a fricking chance he ever has broken 70.
I will concede that when they post rounds online they're typically not goat ranch tracks. I do think Riggs, as ugly as his swing is, has a better than average game around and on the green. His biggest issue is keeping his driver on the planet. He's in jail or OB off the tee far too much to ever break 70.
But I maybe could buy him being at or near a single digit handicap. maybe
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 4:03 pm
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