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Need help from the swing doctors
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:48 pm
I can’t hit long irons or a driver. Let’s start with the driver.
I can’t hit the frickin the thing. I use older clubs with steel shafts. That includes my 5 wood and 3 wood. I’ve been driving with a 3 wood for years and hit it well. I’ve tried a variety of drivers, but they spray right. I’m currently trying out a TaylorMade R9. The ONLY way I hit this straight is when I’m at a range standing with my feet together. As soon as I widen my stance, the slice begins. I’ve moved the ball around in my stance a bit, but no luck. Any tips?
As for the irons, same thing. No distance and a big fade once I get to the 5 iron and up.
In other words, I play a round in the 80’s and only use 9 clubs max. Is it time to give up and find a 7 wood?
I can’t hit the frickin the thing. I use older clubs with steel shafts. That includes my 5 wood and 3 wood. I’ve been driving with a 3 wood for years and hit it well. I’ve tried a variety of drivers, but they spray right. I’m currently trying out a TaylorMade R9. The ONLY way I hit this straight is when I’m at a range standing with my feet together. As soon as I widen my stance, the slice begins. I’ve moved the ball around in my stance a bit, but no luck. Any tips?
As for the irons, same thing. No distance and a big fade once I get to the 5 iron and up.
In other words, I play a round in the 80’s and only use 9 clubs max. Is it time to give up and find a 7 wood?
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:08 pm to TexasTiger08
Best advice I can give you. Tocogolf on YouTube or Instagram.
Also the problem with long irons and Driver is your body is moving forward and your club I lagging way behind. You have to keep you head behind the ball and your arms/shoulders have to swing separately from body.
Also the problem with long irons and Driver is your body is moving forward and your club I lagging way behind. You have to keep you head behind the ball and your arms/shoulders have to swing separately from body.
This post was edited on 6/17/24 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:33 am to TexasTiger08
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I can’t hit long irons or a driver. Let’s start with the driver. I can’t hit the frickin the thing. I use older clubs with steel shafts. That includes my 5 wood and 3 wood. I’ve been driving with a 3 wood for years and hit it well.
Off a tee or off the deck?
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I’ve tried a variety of drivers, but they spray right. I’m currently trying out a TaylorMade R9. The ONLY way I hit this straight is when I’m at a range standing with my feet together. As soon as I widen my stance, the slice begins. I’ve moved the ball around in my stance a bit, but no luck. Any tips?
Keeping your feet together is probably allowing you to keep an in-out swing path. When you hit your “slice” does it start right and then curve right or does it start straight and then turn?
It’s likely that your down swing is too shallow. On takeaway try to take a shorter and steeper backswing and then accelerate through the ball from the inside. Start your downswing with your left leg, push down and forward against the ground with your left foot to rotate your hips out of the way and imagine burying your right elbow into your kidney.
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As for the irons, same thing. No distance and a big fade once I get to the 5 iron and up. In other words, I play a round in the 80’s and only use 9 clubs max. Is it time to give up and find a 7 wood?
The longer the club, the longer it is to hit. If your swing plane is too shallow it gets harder to get consistent contact because you lose leverage. Your power comes from the ground not your arms.
When you hit the range for practice start from your shortest club and work your way up through the bag skipping every other club until you get to the ones you hit like crap. If you strike your wedges and short irons well and consistently bring those fundamentals into the next longer club. If you can hit a fairway wood solidly there’s no reason you can’t hit a driver unless you’re psyching yourself out.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:57 am to TexasTiger08
Sounds like you aren’t through and finishing with the swing.
Two suggestions
1 - When you widen to shoulder width on the stance, open the left foot slightly to the target.
2 - put a club down to mark your target line, square up to it, then (assuming you’re right handed) take your right foot and move it back so you are still on the target line with your left foot, but you now have a 2” gap to the line with your right.
Combine those two and you’ll find it pretty hard to slice.
Two suggestions
1 - When you widen to shoulder width on the stance, open the left foot slightly to the target.
2 - put a club down to mark your target line, square up to it, then (assuming you’re right handed) take your right foot and move it back so you are still on the target line with your left foot, but you now have a 2” gap to the line with your right.
Combine those two and you’ll find it pretty hard to slice.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:16 am to RockinDood
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Off a tee or off the deck?
Tee
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When you hit your “slice” does it start right and then curve right or does it start straight and then turn?
It will start straight and then turn
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:35 am to TexasTiger08
Feet together is not only a good drill, but can be done on the course.
Do you have a pro to work with?
A teaching pro could see what is happening, diagnose it, and give you a solution.
I go about twice a year to a pro I trust.
Do you have a pro to work with?
A teaching pro could see what is happening, diagnose it, and give you a solution.
I go about twice a year to a pro I trust.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:14 am to TexasTiger08
It's all path and face angle. You ever play baseball?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:36 am to makersmark1
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teaching pro could see what is happening, diagnose it, and give you a solution.
This. Spend $60 and have a pro fix your swing. It will be better than any advice you pick up online from people who havent seen you swing.
I spent years trying to teach myself how to be a good golfer. It was a lot of two steps forward and one step back; lots of inconsistency and always searching for some secret move.
Then a little over a year ago i took some lessons from a new pro that moved to town. Completely changed my game by teaching me how the golf swing is supposed to work. He started at my feet and worked all the way up to my hands; so many changes. But now i have great confidence in my swing and a good understanding of proper swing mechanics.
Good lessons took me from trying to break 80 every round to trying to break par.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:58 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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This. Spend $60 and have a pro fix your swing. It will be better than any advice you pick up online from people who havent seen you swing.
This but it will take several lessons most likely and cost more than $60. I feel like I have finally turned the corner with driver but you can't fix everything at once. Best way it was explained to me is that the swing is like a complex multi step math problem - if you screw up step 2 of 7 then the whole problem is screwed. You have to fix one thing at a time and eventually get there.
Example of things that have been fixed over the last 2 years: setup, takeaway, weight distribution in the back swing, head position, club path, attack angle, releasing the driver and not holding off like an iron, getting the club face more closed.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:37 am to TexasTiger08
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Tee
What happens when you try to hit your fairway wood off the mat or off of the ground?
Is your tendency to hit the ground first behind the ball or top it?
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It will start straight and then turn
Your ball’s initial trajectory will follow your club head path. If it starts off straight or even slightly to the left it could be you’re coming over the top with too steep of a down swing. That combined with an open club face will cause a slice.
I would practice trying to promote an in to out path. At the range try to hit the ball off to the right. You already have an open club face so if you hit the ball in to out you will block it off to the right and it will fly straight with little fade. If you accomplish that you’re halfway there.
What’s your driver loft?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:59 am to TexasTiger08
Since it’s the longer clubs, I would bet you are taking it back to inside gettting stuck and coming over the top. When your feet are together you restrict your turn and the club can’t get behind you as easily.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:29 am to TexasTiger08
Taking swing advice from a bunch of randos on the internet is never a good idea. What works for someone else could make your problem worse.
There are a hundred things that could be causing your issues.
Find an instructor or record your swing and take an online lesson through Skillest.
There are a hundred things that could be causing your issues.
Find an instructor or record your swing and take an online lesson through Skillest.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 9:35 am
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:39 am to SingleMalt1973
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I would bet you are taking it back to inside gettting stuck and coming over the top.
Agree. Exactly what I meant when I said path...his path into the ball is likely coming from outside to in. Yet I get the downvote.
Clowns. And the reason I asked if he ever played baseball is because had he answered yes, I would suggest working on hitting the ball to right field...which would promote an inside swing path...which stops you from cutting across the ball.
Obviously the best advice is to get on a monitor with a coach and get the real diagnosis like Tyga suggested.
eta: This is the best video I've seen on fixing a slice... YouTube
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 10:50 am
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