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re: Lucas Glover says most PGA pros cheat driver testing
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:33 am to Kingpenm3
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:33 am to Kingpenm3
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Can someone tell me what they are actually testing for? What is a pass and what is a fail?
Something else I read made it sound like 'good' drivers end up failing the test after so much use. (I have no idea if that is true)
From what I read after the controversy came out during the PGA Championship it's just basically a worn down face that causes the face to be more "springy" and gives it added distance,
An average golfers face is really never going to wear down. It's mainly guys that are hitting tons of balls over the course of a long time and hitting the same spot/sweet spot over and over.
Nothing I read talked about how much of a distance boost a worn down face would be giving them.
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:54 am to iwyLSUiwy
They had the guy on PGA Tour radio that invented the testing device. I believe he said the “biggest fail” he had ever seen led to an extra 3 yards in distance vs where it would have been when conforming from normal wear
He did say you could see more of using an illegal driver. But I am not sure if anyone has ever actually used an “illegal” driver
He did say you could see more of using an illegal driver. But I am not sure if anyone has ever actually used an “illegal” driver
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:57 am
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:34 am to lsupride87
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They had the guy on PGA Tour radio that invented the testing device. I believe he said the “biggest fail” he had ever seen led to an extra 3 yards in distance vs where it would have been when conforming from normal wear
Wow! Probably makes a ton of money selling the tester now too.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:41 am to iwyLSUiwy
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worn down face that causes the face to be more "springy" and gives it added distance,
Yes, a thin face creates more of a trampoline effect. I would like to know who the others were so I can see the brand of their drivers. The two we know were both Taylor Made.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:51 pm to Corinthians420
My understanding is the test doesn't take long. Why not test after the round also? Bring your card and driver you used to the scoring tent.
Heck, NASCAR techs cars before and after.
Is it only 1 woods getting tested? Why not just keep a conforming driver in the bag and use a well used mini driver.
Heck, NASCAR techs cars before and after.
Is it only 1 woods getting tested? Why not just keep a conforming driver in the bag and use a well used mini driver.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:14 pm to holmesbr
The easiest solution to this is to perform pre tournament testing. Test everyone’s gamer driver and tag it.
Eliminates any and all confusion.
I don’t think anyone is intentionally thinning the face of their driver, but I’m sure all these guys are aware it can happen. Especially with how many balls they hit daily.
Eliminates any and all confusion.
I don’t think anyone is intentionally thinning the face of their driver, but I’m sure all these guys are aware it can happen. Especially with how many balls they hit daily.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:34 pm to Swagga
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The easiest solution to this is to perform pre tournament testing. Test everyone’s gamer driver and tag it.
Eliminates any and all confusion.
This. For what the thin faces are actually gaining, this has become way too controversial in the last couple week to not just nip this shite in the bud.
Say hey, practice rounds end at 5:00 on Wednesday. Declare your intended driver and have tested before you tee off Thursday. It's up to you how you do this. Come early, so you can go get another built on the equipment trucks if you need to... Have a back up ready...
They're adults competing for millions of dollars at every tournament. They can carve out enough time to get this done and make sure their drivers are conforming.
That, or just say frick it. Check your driver at the gate on Thursday morning. No back ups, no equipment trucks. If it cracks, have fun the rest of the week.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 6:56 pm to WhiteMandingo
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How hard would it be to do tag each club if the club is not tagged and used the golfer used an illegal club and is out of the tournament.
It’s easier than that. You test all of the drivers after the round finishes not before the tournament.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:25 pm to wutangfinancial
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It’s easier than that. You test all of the drivers after the round finishes not before the tournament.
So you want to start DQing players who may not have had any idea of any way of knowing if their driver was non-conforming before they started their round? Let them play with it and then punish them? We’re talking about tests that measure minuscule characteristics in the face. Even if they were doing it themselves, their equipment may differ slightly from the equipment testing by the Tour.
It would make a lot more sense and be just as easy to test everyone’s driver before a tournament starts and put a sticker on it just like they do for college bats. Testing after a round isn’t any easier. It takes the same amount of time and you wouldn’t have to deal with any problems with disqualifying players after a round
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:30 pm to lsufball19
No I disagree with all of this nonsense entirely but it would completely stop the issue from happening. Like you said it’s not even a blip of difference in distance.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:13 pm to wutangfinancial
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but it would completely stop the issue from happening
no it wouldn't. players have no idea if their drivers have become non-conforming until a test says they are. They are conforming when they put them in the bag and, after 1000s of strikes, they become non-conforming. Unless you expect them to put a new club in the bag every tournament, it wouldn't stop anything. testing them before every tournament and then stamping them makes the most logical sense
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:18 am to wutangfinancial
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You test all of the drivers after the round finishes not before the tournament.
What if a driver becomes non conforming during the middle of a round?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:54 am to BuckeyeGoon
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What if a driver becomes non conforming during the middle of a round?
Once you are cleared prior to play, you are good until the following week.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:23 am to TDTOM
Sure thats how it should be but I'm talking about the scenario where that guy wants drivers tested after playing and then eliminating players who used a non conforming driver, how would we know exactly when the club crossed over from conforming to non conforming? It could have been ok prior to them teeing off.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:37 am to BuckeyeGoon
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how would we know exactly when the club crossed over from conforming to non conforming?
You wouldn't. Testing after play is dumb.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:40 pm to MrSpock
There are a lot of players using illegal COR to produce those swing speeds.
COR is the trampoline effect coming off the face of the driver.
COR is the trampoline effect coming off the face of the driver.
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